Will we be inialated [annihilated] as a race before its too late?

OK, so if the universe is infinitely expanding, there is therefore an infinite chance that anything possible (Space possible, not just so far on Earth possible) could happen. So my argument is; Why have not been visited by ‘aliens’? Is it because, its not actually possible as even the most superior races are destroyed before they can achieve it?

I think this question is sufficiently broad that it’s more suited to our Great Debates forum rather than General Question.

I would fix your thread title, but I am not sure what “inialated” is a typo for.

Colibri
General Questions Moderator

Annihilated.

And it’s because the distances are too great. Unless an intelligent species figures out how to sidestep the universal speed limit, there is no way to get here from there in the lifetime of any civilization, let alone individual lifeform. The highest velocity humans have achieved so far is still only a fraction of c. Even if problems of life support were solved, it would take a lifetime to reach the nearest star, only 4 ly away.

I believe the OP means “annihilated”.

As to the answer to the question “why haven’t we been visited by aliens?”, I think there are a number of possibilities, including

[ul]
[li]There are no ‘aliens’ to visit us[/li][li]Faster-than-light travel is impossible, making interstellar travel impractical if not impossible[/li][li]The number of civilizations capable of interstellar travel is small enough that even with FTL travel, the chances of stumbling across us in the vastness of space is so remote that it simply hasn’t happened yet[/li][/ul]

I believe he means “annihilated.”

Not sure what you mean by “destroyed,” by what? But I think you’re on the right track. The likelihood of inhabitants of one planet visiting inhabitants on another is pretty darned low. The sheer distance between any two stars, let alone two stars with identifiable planets, let alone stars with planets which could support life, let alone intelligent life, let alone intelligent life that evolved to the point of building technology to be able to discern which other planets had intelligent life, building spaceships that could carry people to said planet, etc. would seem to make it very unlikely indeed.

The universe has been around for a finite amount of time, so it’s not correct that “there is therefore an infinite chance that anything possible”.

Achieve what?

Why per se would an intelligent race, far more advanced than we are if they could achieve interstellar travel, have a great desire to put huge resources to visit us?

Maybe we are not visited just because we would not be that interesting.

That was my guess, too, but I’d like the OP to confirm before I change it.

Perhaps we’re in a nature preserve.
Perhaps we’re like the pre-warp species in Star Trek, protected by the prime directive.
Perhaps travel to distant stars really isn’t practical.
Perhaps they’re waiting for us to sort out some of the basic things before they let us out of the bottle.

Perhaps there’s one right behin

Also possible: they came, they watched, they booked it after seeing the kind of utter pricks we are to each other :wink:

ETA:

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I AM ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL**.

Which is what will happen to the human race if the Galactic Spelling Monitors ever read the OP. Clear enough?

Actually, it’s more like a reality show.

Absolutely nothing in the OP makes any sense. The universe is expanding, but that does not mean everything that is possible has to happen. If multiple universe theory is correct, then maybe all the potential outcomes of every event take place in one universe or another. I don’t think that means everything that is possible is happening, and it doesn’t mean that everything that could happen is taking place somewhere in the universe.

Heh, the urban dictionary has inialated as in waysted, that is “being really drunk” it seems.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=inialated

Total non-sequitur. Why do people believe this?

Have a question about space and expansion:

Does this mean other galaxies (and their planets) are being pushed further away (though extremely slowly) from us? Or to us?

Are *all *galaxies stretching? In 5 million years, will we have new neighbors but be a dead planet w/o the sun?

If the universe were finite and we’re expanding (stretching. whatever.) what shape would that universe have?

Cosmic expansion really only matters on very large scales. On smaller scales gravity overcomes expansion. For example, the Andromeda Galaxy, our closest neighbor, is actually approaching us.

The galaxies themselves aren’t stretching because the gravity between their component stars holds them together. For as long as Earth and the sun will exist (which will be much longer than 5 million years), they will be a part of the Milky Way galaxy.

Imagine 4-dimensional inflating balloon.

Maybe the aliens have done flybys and decided that we’re not worth the effort of visiting.

Assuming a race discovers intersteller travel, it will colonize planets in nearby stars. After a few centuries, the colonists will move to their nearby stars.
In a few million years, the whole galaxy would be colonized.
The fact that we have not been visited indicates that either we are alone in our galaxy, or the other inhabitants have not discovered interstellar travel.
Since the galaxy is 14 billion years old, there would be time for a civilization to arise and attain the necessary technological level.
Either intelligent life is not so common as we would expect or technological civilizations tend to anihilate themselves before interstellar travel is possible.

Or, interstellar travel just IS NOT POSSIBLE in any practical way, no matter how much unobtainium and handwaverium you manage to mine. It’s entirely possible that there are thousands of planetary systems in this galaxy with intelligent life, but they simply can’t manage to swim the moat. It may be that the only way we’ll ever know if we’re not alone is to listen, like we already are, and hope that we’re not extinct before the radio waves from another civilization reach us (which isn’t the same thing as going extinct before we discover practical interstellar travel).