You didn’t even read my post, did you? I’ll sum it up for you:
We don’t hate her. We WANT her to run.
Actually, the first guy who says, “The president has little effect on the economy” might as well start working on his concession speech.
The sword cuts both ways. It cut that way with Ford and Bush-41, it cut that way with Carter and soon Obama.
The candidates themselves won’t say it, but the pundits will.
Palin quitting should be an absolute deal breaker. She should be shunned as a candidate. She blew the trust of her citizens and showed what a selfish bitch she is.
Hey, Gonzo, you are sounding a lot more shrill today, aren’t you?
She did what 99% of us would have done under the same circumstances.
Not 99% of the people I know. You may hang out with a different crowd.
Did Hilary Clinton blow the trust of New Yorkers when she abandoned her senatorship to become Secretary of State? Certainly she is of less use to the people of New York now than she was when she was their senator.
If someone offered me ten times what I’m making now, for a lot less grief, I’d hop at it and so would you.
At least I’m honest enough to admit it.
Maybe so. Although I don’t think 99% of us would have wanted the difficulties of being Governor in the first place.
But that’s not the point of this thread. It’s not about Palin’s motives for quitting. It’s about our reaction to her quitting.
Palin should have known she can’t quit a job in the middle in order to take a better offer - and then turn around and ask people to hire her for another job.
Quitting one political office to take another one is a long-standing practice and is rarely held against a candidate. Obama, McCain, Biden, and Palin were all prepared to quit their current office if they had been elected in 2008 and it was a non-issue.
But it’s a whole different thing when somebody quits a political office for their own interests.
Are you crazy? She went on to an important position and provide more service to the people of America.
Is there a service Palin is providing to anyone but herself?
Man that was ridiculous.
Nope. If I make a commitment I follow it through. Besides I love what I do and making more doing something else would not sway me; I make enough already to have all my simple desires met and then some. A nice roof over my head and can send all my kids to college. And that’s the people I know to no small numbers too. And more who are smart enough to take a longer view and who have more ambition than a few years of a celebrity paycheck. They’d have seen the Governorship out and tried to be a serious contender instead of milking the quick bucks for two years and then fade away (which is most assuredly what will happen to her from here). But I don’t hang out with a lazy greedy crowd by and by.
But yes I’ll grant the point that many average Americans have no honest interest in sacrifice for the good of their state or their country or for society at large. Most people are not doing a job they believe in or particularly enjoy and have not taken it in order to make a positive difference. And most average Americans are not qualified to be governor or President; when they get there they become the Blago who used the position to try get easy gain one way, or the Palin who did it in another way, one not illegal, but still one that speaks volumes about who she is as a person. It informs, if there was any doubt, that she is not one of the few who has what it takes to be a President. (In contrast Bachmann at least I can see as someone who believes in accomplishing something other than an easy life and personal comfort; they are just things that I completely disagree with.)
You are admitting you are a Republican. It is all about money. Actually caring about the people and the country, is foreign to you. It is all about money. Who and what you are has jelled clearly. But try and understand, some people actually do care about the country and providing service. They want to leave the world a better place when they are gone. Apparently money trumps your values and you judge others that way.
Exactly! So when a politician quits one office where they directly serve the people who entrusted them with that job in order to take one in which they don’t serve that constituency in any direct way, allegedly betraying that trust really isn’t that big of a deal, then, is it? Plus, congress critters and White House functionaries quit their jobs all the time in order to spend more time with their families and or to make more money and no one says a peep.
The fact that Palin quit her job in Alaska is only of importance to those of you who hate her and are eager to jump on anything you can to discredit her. Trust me, the rest of the country doesn’t give a shit.
gonz,* many* Republicans care more about their country than personal gain, even if their view of it is different that either of our two views (which we both know differ from each other’s as well). This particular Republican is just not one of them. I can find Democrats just like him very easily. But people like him, and like Palin, should not be in public office.
Not even close to true. Most pols have to be dynamited out of their positions.
It is a nice secure well paying job. Many actually care about trying to help the country. That is an alien concept to Repubs who see the job as a stepping stone to a huge lobbyist position.
Betraying the trust is a big deal to Dems. As you suggest ,the Repubs are about money ,so serving the public and doing good work, is not a worthwhile endeavor.
\ Palin let down thousands of people who pounded on doors and dropped off literature for her. She ignored those who donated money and collected it for her campaign. There were organizers who worked endless hours to make her campaign win. Phone operators who dialed for hours every day for her campaign were tossed aside in her petty greed.
There are very few politicians who quit like she did. That is why it was shocking and a big deal. It was definitely not political business as usual. You are way off base again.
In what world is “this person has shown a willingness to quit their position” not a factor to consider when you decide whether you should put them in another position like that again? If they can’t handle the pressure, or they abandon their duty for a money grab - how in the world is this supposed to be completely irrelevant to whether or not you’d want to put them in a similar position?
Your position is absurd. “Will this person abandon the position due to greed or if the pressure gets too high?” is a perfectly logical, non-partisan-sniping question any objective reasonable person could ask themselves.
You are just an apologist. What could she do that would be wrong in your eyes?
Your reasoning here is so convoluted I’m not sure if you’re trying to describe Hillary Clinton or Sarah Palin.
But let me make the distinction again. Hillary Clinton quit a political job to take another political job. Sarah Palin quit a political job to benefit Sarah Palin.
That’s true.
Do you think Chris Lee or Anthony Weiner are likely to get elected President?
But…but…guyyys! New Yorkers trusted her! They passed out pamphlets and everything! And she turned her back on them to take a job with more prestige which she hornswaggled out of Obama in order to get her to concede the election. In her new job she doesn’t do jack shit for all those millions of New Yorkers who were counting on her to senatorize for them!
Do you also feel that it’s a logical conclusion based on what we’ve said that we think Obama betrayed the people of Illinois by leaving them to become president?