I would disagree I was completely wrong. The Marshals Service would be highly unlikely to jump into action just because Roberts called up and told them to go get someone. It is clear this would have to be run past the AG, in this case Bondi. So nothing would in fact happen.
And yet that isn’t what I did or said. As I just added to my post above the Marshals DO NOT report to the courts nor are they controlled by the courts.
Furthermore it’s a much worse look to misrepresent the accuracy of what another poster said without a cite. I didn’t bait and switch anything. The simple FACT is the Marshals are not controlled by the courts when it comes to arrests or detention. Throughout the history of the Marshals Service this has been done on order of the POTUS or DOG/USAG. Read the link to their website above.
IF you come back with a cite showing them responding to a direct order from SCOTUS then that would be a different thing.
Or violence. Ultimately, I don’t decide any of this. Saying that there’s an 18% chance of option 8 (at the largest percentage) and a 16% of option 1 (in two years) on down the line to the smallest likelihood, we eventually get to 100% with no particular option being particularly likely. One of them is still the most likely.
That’s my hope too; that essentially the Senate and SCOTUS are happy enough to go along when it suits them, but they’ll check him hard the moment he attempts to render them irrelevant or reduce their power. Same thing with the States as well.
The Supreme Court has no real power over he executive without Congress, and unless you can find 20 Republican Senators who still have their balls (or convince 29 of them to stay home while the Senate is still in session and at order) expecting Congress to actually do anything is just hopeful pleading.
Best case scenario is that the courts rule against Trump, he doesn’t push the issue, and he contents himself with taking bribes and kickbacks for relatively minor things (that would still be the largest scandal in almost any other presidency).
Vance and Musk have both signaled that they’re open to defying court orders. If Trump pushes the issue, then best case scenario is that either Bondi doesn’t listen to Trump or the Marshals don’t listen to her and a lot of DOGE personnel end up in prison.
Bondi is wildly corrupt. So if she caves and the Marshals stand down, the next best scenario is congress impeaches and removes him.
Congress is far more in the bag for Trump than 2021 and they weren’t close right after he attempted a violent coup. Best case at this point is really really bleak. The opponent has abandoned the law at this point (well, prior) and is granting themselves dictatorial powers. The legal remedy is basically obstruct and hope there’s something to salvage in 2026 and 2028. The other remedies are flavors of violence.
I will agree with you this is the best case scenario - Trump blinks and doesn’t defy the courts. I doubt it plays out this way.
As you mention both Vance and Musk find no reason to follow the courts. Congress will not do anything, DOJ and the AG will not do anything. And as Stranger mentioned above, SCOTUS has no real power over the Executive without Congress backing them up.
On the Sunday News Shows, I heard at least two Reps saying that the President has every right to review programs for waste. Conveniently ignoring the fact that they are not only reviewing, but taking actions. Which is clearly in the purview of Congress. So they’ve already made peace with being irrelevant.
Now witness the clear Mayor Adams quid pro quo. This is how Trump will get compliance, even from some Democrats. Since he can direct the DOJ to go after someone, he can also then offer to let them off the hook. For a price.
SCOTUS is our best hope because I doubt they want to be remembered as the entity that unlocked the last gate to hell. Of course I recognize they lack enforcement power, but maybe, just maybe, openly defying the court will be a bridge too far for Congress, or the final straw that brings sweeping gains for Dems in 2026. Note again that I said maybe.
How do you envision a court bailiff going out and arresting any major official from the Executive branch, let alone the President? Does she just walk into the White House, past the guards and Secret Service, and slap the handcuffs on?
This is not a humorous idea. This is a no-go from the get-go.
What is the possibility that SCOTUS would rule that arresting any executive officer carrying out presidential orders, even if illegal, is a violation of the separation of powers? The theory that immunity from “official acts” trickles down.
Even if the Trump-supporting Congress says he can be taken to court and tried, I cannot envision a scenario when the U.S. Secret Service, a division of Homeland Security and headed by the unqualified Trump-appointed Sean Curran, allows any court official within a mile of the President.
You… Couldn’t? But… You literally made the connection yourself:
Mall Cop is a movie about a bumbling idiot with a job that doesn’t require much skill (a mall cop) taking on a situation that’s waaaay out of his pay grade (a hostage crisis, in the original movie).
Sort of like a bailiff trying to get past the Secret Service to arrest the president. Or a group of neighborhood watchmen taking on an alien invasion from a Costco. Or a group of friends whose game night is interrupted by international espionage.