Human Embroyos to be Cloned - Cast Your vote!

The time has come, folks, it is now a “works in progress” and here’s a chance to cast your vote:

Clone embroyos, yes
Clone embroyos, no

http://www.guardianunlimited.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4045731,00.html

Thousands of Osips!

Yes !!!

Osip

Well, if we aren’t allowed to include caveats, equivocations, and justifications I will have to go with a simple:

Yes.

Yes.
But seeing as I plan on becoming an evil scientists/super-villian, my vote might not count for much.

I wonder if cloning humans will be how the anti-christ comes to be. I can’t imagine him being born a person… Just my thoughts!

Irrespective, I don’t believe in cloning. I can’t see how that will further the human race.

I’m having trouble producing a half-clone by the traditional method. The incubator equipment keeps running away, filing restraining orders, that sort of thing. So maybe it’s time to give this cloning business a shot.

I figure there’s always room for one more Englishman in the world :slight_smile:

A definative Yes

Tally so far:

Serious Yes: 1 (me)
Possilby Serious Yes: 1 (fredicus)
Inserious Yes: 3 (APB9999, Osip, Myrr)
Serious No: 1 (BurgrFries)

The serious lead the inseriuos 3.5 to 2.5. Go team!

Well, I certainly wasn’t “inserious”, since I don’t think that’s a word…but if you want a serious vote from me…well…you can’t get one.

Oh, fine then: Yes.

Abso-friggin-lutely!
And every single one of my horde of a million clones agrees!

An army of soulslings, it would be…
[ul]—NOPE!—[/ul]
huge mistake, no way, bad idea. Playing with life like that, that’s just as bad as sending off countless millions to die unecessarily in a war. Besides, who would want to deal with more of themselves but younger?

Tempting though aint it?!?

Out of curiousity, what’s the similarity here? Maybe my brain just isn’t working (not an unusual state of affairs), but I’m just not seeing the similarity…

Wait a darned minute - GEEZE Louise! They are talking about raising embryo and taking the out behing the barn (just kidding) and shooting them (just Kidding) and using them for spare parts.

You won’t be seeing thousands of little Osips in the Easter Bunny Parade/ 4th of July either. But thousands of little Osips might have given their insy tinsy bitsy all for someone’s new kidney or ear or spinal whatsie.

Now does THAT make a difference in your vote?

Yes, you can change your vote as long as obfusciatrist says you can.

I thought that was what I was for? ::pout::

I still vote yes. Especially since they seem to be talking more about growing a limb or an organ for spare parts than a whole person…but I’m a future evil scientist, so what do you expect?

I vote yes.
Caution, as always, would be warranted, of course.

Myrr21, For me, whether a being is full grown or just in it’s embryo stage, this one is still a human. Something about just growing embryos like theyr’e part of a garden patch kind of lessens the importance of life for me. Like sending off a soldier to a war, knowing he’s not going to be coming back, and letting him die. If there are other ways around it, I would prefer those first. I agree with the research, and that it should be known how to do what we must do in case we need to, most importantly because it may lead to a further advancement, but I would not be for this research having embryos cloned be the final result. Cloning body parts is a wonderful idea, especially in the matters concerning of brain tissue and not that it was mentioned, but eyes, nerves… etc.
I just don’t want it to become the end result of our research as a human race to use embryos for this purpose, but hopefully that they may be able to understand more what they need to do to make the specific body parts artificially without having to create a human life, and then destroy it. If it’s got a heart pumping, it’s alive for me. I am not speaking out of any religious pretext, it’s my own personal opinion.
To your question then, more directly, creating a life that will never fully grow to whatever potential is possible for it seems like a waste morally to me. A soldier dying needlessly, a not fully developed child the same thing, but being used mostly for it’s parts like a parts car sitting out on the driveway on blocks for whenever your normal car needs a part. Just doesn’t click with me. call me a sap.

Definite yes.

It would be a step forward.

I clicked on the link, but the page wasn’t available at the moment, so I can’t comment on this issue specifically yet. I’ll try again on the link later.

However, this reminds me of an article I read last year. We are already able to clone animals (although it is expensive). Someone is planning on setting up a service where they can clone for you a dog or other pet. It involves freezing a few cells from your existing pet for future use. I’m sorry I have no cite for this; I will do some net research as soon as I submit this post and get back if I find anything.

If you couldn’t vote to clone humans, could you vote to clone a beloved dog so that when that dog dies, you could have that dog (no doubt with the same personality) over again?

In this instance, I vote a definite yes. And I wish I had a few cells from my dear departed Ching-Ching in reserve at the cyberlab.

Obfusciatrist,

Please consider me a definate yes :slight_smile:

BTW,
here in the UK the relevant ppl have just asked permission to explore/research with human embryos ( previously taboo ).

I wonder if the first human clone will be called Dolly or Danny ? ( if it gets a name and not a number ) :wink:

Yes, with caveats I won’t bother to get into in a simple voting page.