You are right.
It would have been more like one of these other jobs that he has had:
As mentioned already in post 133
That was my understanding of a board member’s “job” as well. I suppose my response about 40-50 hours per week should have included a /s.
I have stated why this matters. I’m not making the “they do it too” argument no matter how often people want to twist my words. This conversations is really becoming a battle of diminishing returns now.
So what was the point of the comment? He was offered a job, and took it. As @k9bfriender showed, it was in line with his previous work and experience. It’s not weird. And it’s not dishonest. It might look bad, but those are looks, not necessarily reality.
And it certainly doesn’t show influence-peddling.
When Trump’s most ardent supporters are actually advocating that the entire Biden family be imprisoned … for the belief that some of them may have attempted to do what Jared, Ivanka, Don, Jr., Eric, and Donald Sr. do for a living, we’re really in bizarro world.
[insert Trump tax returns here]
Bush 43 was, IMHO, an idiot – one with a great resume. How do you think he became a two-term President ? Family name and connections. Full stop.
Is it possible that Hunter Biden’s single biggest qualification was his father’s position ? Sure.
But the fucking hypocrisy … yikes. Just … yikes.
“Looks bad” is the only argument I ever made here. Other than the fairly common practice of foreign players who are constantly on the lookout to buy favor or find kompromat on high value individuals. Which, I argued, the Bidens should have been aware of and FFS, Hunter admitted to having used poor judgement.
I’m done you guys. Let’s just call it game, set and match YOU.
It really only looks bad if the spin on it is believed. If you actually spend a scant minute or so actually looking into it, you can easily see that there is no there there.
Essentially, what it seems you are saying is that no one that is related to anyone in politics should ever take any job, on the off chance that it could “look bad” to someone who doesn’t bother to actually look into the details, and instead be swayed by the spin of the opposition.
In some ways, a board member is like having an attorney on retainer. Even though the attorney might not know all aspects of the law, they know enough to give useful advice in most matters and know who to refer you to if more specialized help is needed. You pay $X/month for the privilege of having them answer the phone when you call and talk as much as you want. Some board members will be hired just for their industry experience, some just for their business experience, and some for both.
A lot of the RW media is harping on his lack of experience in oil and gas, and even Trump did in the debate, but it’s not at all unusual for board members to have little or no experience in the industry the company is operating in. Someone with banking background may not get any questions about which oilfields to drill in, but such a person would get questions about how to obtain the funding needed to pay for the exploratory drilling.
Poor judgement, fine. But I took what you said as being further than poor judgement:
In response to me saying it wasn’t necessarily influence peddling:
In response to my saying Biden was unlikely to have gone his whole life without cashing in and deciding to do so for this:
I won the interwebz, guys!!11
Pretty much anything I or anyone ever shamed the Trump children for is directly related to their activities while working for their father.
I believe all those things to be not merely plausible but very likely. I, of course, can’t prove any of them. But I maintain my suspicions.
But indeed, you’ve won the interwebz today. We’ll meet again.
You know that isn’t true for “anyone” and I bet if you gave it a minute you can think of several examples in which they’ve been shamed, and rightly so, for things they’ve done that had nothing to do with the work they were doing for their father. Why even make such an absurd and demonstrably false statement?
Ah, and now we see the value in making unsubstantiated accusations. There will be be people who consider them likely, without any proof, and maintain their suspicions.
FFS. Hunter Biden admitted to using bad judgement.
Honestly. What is the point anymore?..
If it is demonstrably false, then you should be able to demonstrate that it is false, right?
Give me some examples of shameful things the Trump kids did that were unrelated to their father or his businesses, because I can’t think of any - except maybe Don Jr. leaving his wife for a Fox News goldigger, but I’m not convinced that Trump didn’t have a hand in that one.
They’ve never made any attempt to live outside their father’s sphere.
PS, I’m not talking about Tiffany here.
What he said was
His bad judgement was that he should have been aware that people would make accusations about the optics, and should have turned down the job, not because there was anything unethical about it, but solely because there would be people that would make assumptions that it was “sketchy as hell” and that they would have and maintain their suspicions, absent any proof of any wrong doing.
In other words, he is disappointed that his actions could be used in a counterfactual smear campaign against his father, and that there would be those who looked solely at the optics, not the substance, and he should have turned it down for those reasons.
He allowed himself to be in a position to be a target of false accusations, which people would believe with no proof, and that was damaging to his father’s campaign, even though he did nothing unethical. That was what he felt he had bad judgement about.
The point is, the Trump smear campaign has worked on you. That’s disappointing as hell.
Only Jr and Ivanka, and they actively in politics. They are fair targets.
Better decisions? Ok, but what does that have to do with the election?
I don’t think they are getting paid though.
You’re more than welcome to write a check.