Actually “infer” is correct. Onomatopoeia did not imply that the GOP is calculated evil. S/he stated it flat out. papaw asked, since the GOP has not yet formally declared itself “the party of calculated evil,” from what actions of the GOP did Onomatopoeia infer that the GOP is calculated evil.
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This is one of the things I absolutely LOVE about the Dope. This kind of thing is not only tolerated, but perhaps even encouraged!
I love you guys!
We now return you to your regularly scheduled Pitting.
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Imply. IMPLY.
I feel better.Carry on…
Oh noooooo!!!
There’s a very real possibility that you’re about to get piled on.

Actually “infer” is correct. Onomatopoeia did not imply that the GOP is calculated evil. S/he stated it flat out. papaw asked, since the GOP has not yet formally declared itself “the party of calculated evil,” from what actions of the GOP did Onomatopoeia infer that the GOP is calculated evil.
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I didn’t read it as papaw asking Onom for an inference. I don’t see how I didn’t see that. Sorry. Carry on.
You know, I’m not a fan of Republican politics by any means, but every time I catch a glimpse of TV news I am really stunned by how anti-Republican it really is. Am I just missing the anti-Obama stuff, or is it really all that bad?
I dunno, where were you during ReverendWrightGate, or AyersGate or NAFTAGate or RezkoGate?
That piece wasn’t journalism, it was just tabloid/trash media that served no purpose whatsoever other than to drum up false outrage. Some lobbyists threw some parties. Like that never happens on the Democratic side? Bizarre.
You forgot about the part where the Republicans claimed to be taking the high moral ground by ixnaying the hooplah and partying in the wake of what those in the Gulf Coast region were facing. And yet, it appears as if the only scaling back of festivities that actually occurred were those that they thought the public would see. What goes on behind closed doors and all that.
Democrats made no such promise.

• [del]But the Republicans move to act compassionately and somberly in the face of this Category 5 disaster so at least they can demonstrate that they care[/del] or rather they would have except that Gustav more or less wandered off and did very little.
I don’t give a shit about the rest of this thread. I avoid most political threads on this board, they tend to be juvenile at best. That being said, the phrase, “Gustav more or less wandered off and did very little.” makes me want to punch you right in the throat. I’m sorry we couldn’t accommodate you with 1600 dead and a city under water this time around, we’ll try a bit harder next time. Just so you know, due to this hurricane and it’s current effects people have died, homes have been destroyed, millions of people are without power and may be for the next few weeks. I’m in north Louisiana right now, where we had 15 inches of rain and dozens of tornadoes last night. I’ve personally seen at least 3 homes completely destroyed and countless others damaged. Just up the road from me there are dozens of other homes with water standing in them. We have been lucky so far, just a few leaks. Let me point out that this damage was caused over a hundred miles away from the worst hit places. I have to go home to Baton Rouge sometime this week, whenever my work and/or LSU get power and open again, to see if I even still have a home. I can’t find out now because there are no phone lines available between here and there. Homes, businesses, schools, and historical landmarks have been damaged and destroyed. People have been affected in many ways, from having to pack there belongings and leave there homes hoping they have homes to go back to when this is over to being killed, all because of Gustav. I suppose we were lucky Gustav “did very little”. The Republicans, the Democrats, and you can all take your precious politics and shove them right up your asses.

And yet, it appears as if the only scaling back of festivities that actually occurred were those that they thought the public would see.
Because of Monday’s schedule change, Bush and Cheney were dumped from appearing live, with Bush back on Tuesday via video feed and playing second banana to Fred Thompson and Cheney back, oh, looks like never. McCain needed Gustav to pull that off withou looking like he was shitting on the sitting [del]albatross[/del] president.

The Republicans, the Democrats, and you can all take your precious politics and shove them right up your asses.
My sympathies for the crap you guys are going through; myself and others here really can’t appreciate the hell you’re going through. And while your outrage is justified, we can only see what’s going on from the outside with reports and numbers that are smaller in comparison to Katrina, hence a statement based on those assumptions.
As for the Reps and Dems, they’re the ones who more or less wandering off and doing little. I have no whole-hearted faith in either party at this point in time.
The only thing I do have faith in right now is the band “Hookers and Blow”.
Still, as long as Obama persists in keeping his skin color darker than George Hamilton, he will likely lose to McCain. The ignorant racist demographic is strong in thos country.
I sure hope I’m wrong, and Obama wins, but I am far from optimistic.

Still, as long as Obama persists in keeping his skin color darker than George Hamilton, he will likely lose to McCain. The ignorant racist demographic is strong in thos country.
I sure hope I’m wrong, and Obama wins, but I am far from optimistic.
He could get the name of Michael Jackson’s doctor, but I doubt it would help.

Because of Monday’s schedule change, Bush and Cheney were dumped from appearing live, with Bush back on Tuesday via video feed and playing second banana to Fred Thompson and Cheney back, oh, looks like never. McCain needed Gustav to pull that off withou looking like he was shitting on the sitting [del]albatross[/del] president.
Actually, this was a huge break for the Pubbies, so we can stop pitying them now – Gustav gave them a reason to dump Still President Bush and Darth Veep. I think they would’ve dumped them due to fog in San Francisco, or unseasonably chilly in Maine – a hurricane was heaven-sent.

I sure hope I’m wrong, and Obama wins, but I am far from optimistic.
Hey, welcome back!
Holy crap, gobear, welcome back.
I did not particularly feel bad for honest Republicans before, but after Peggy Noonan’s revelation today, well, now perhaps I do.

I dunno, where were you during ReverendWrightGate, or AyersGate or NAFTAGate or RezkoGate? You forgot about the part where the Republicans claimed to be taking the high moral ground by ixnaying the hooplah and partying in the wake of what those in the Gulf Coast region were facing. And yet, it appears as if the only scaling back of festivities that actually occurred were those that they thought the public would see. What goes on behind closed doors and all that.
Democrats made no such promise.
I didn’t have TV during the Reverend Wright debacle, and don’t even know what other incidents you’re referring to. The last time I heard anything about NAFTA was earlier in the primaries when Obama was getting criticized for being duplicitous about his stance, but I don’t recall it being blown out of proportion. (Reverend Wright was blown WAAAAAY out of proportion… but for some reason I assumed that was mostly on Fox News.)
I really rarely watch TV news at all – it’s just that every single time I flip by CNN it seems like they are fellating Obama to the point of satire. Maybe I’m just coincidentally hitting those rare times when they are praising him.
With regard to the linked media piece… A mention of the situation might be in order, but following drunk people around expecting them to defend themselves cogently when they’re plastered off their asses? That’s about as intellectually honest as following a Yale doctoral candidate out of a bar and asking him to expound on his dissertation, then calling him a dumbass.
But I’m just, I don’t know, insulted by media coverage of the political process in general.

after Peggy Noonan’s revelation today
Wow, you ain’t kiddin’. (I had missed this. Thanks for the mention.)

I did not particularly feel bad for honest Republicans before, but after Peggy Noonan’s revelation today, well, now perhaps I do.
I can see why you might feel bad. At first I was because this was a GOP royalty (so to speak) who was criticizing Palin. Then again, I don’t really see why this should invoke pity–it’s normal to have disagreement within a party. The GOP has traditionally (since Reagan anyway) been able to get everyone to use the same talking points and stay on message. I think what we’re seeing here is actually healthy for the party–some dissent that makes it into the public eye.
I heard a fascinating bit on NPR about the 1952 Rep convention here in Chicago–how the cameras weren’t allowed in etc. It seems since then that the machinations have been offscreen (and to some extent rightly so, for either party). And there is this: Noonan didn’t know she was “on”. Then again, someone with her savvy should know that any mike is an open one…

I don’t give a shit about the rest of this thread. I avoid most political threads on this board, they tend to be juvenile at best. That being said, the phrase, “Gustav more or less wandered off and did very little.” makes me want to punch you right in the throat. I’m sorry we couldn’t accommodate you with 1600 dead and a city under water this time around, we’ll try a bit harder next time. Just so you know, due to this hurricane and it’s current effects people have died, homes have been destroyed, millions of people are without power and may be for the next few weeks. I’m in north Louisiana right now, where we had 15 inches of rain and dozens of tornadoes last night. I’ve personally seen at least 3 homes completely destroyed and countless others damaged. Just up the road from me there are dozens of other homes with water standing in them. We have been lucky so far, just a few leaks. Let me point out that this damage was caused over a hundred miles away from the worst hit places. I have to go home to Baton Rouge sometime this week, whenever my work and/or LSU get power and open again, to see if I even still have a home. I can’t find out now because there are no phone lines available between here and there. Homes, businesses, schools, and historical landmarks have been damaged and destroyed. People have been affected in many ways, from having to pack there belongings and leave there homes hoping they have homes to go back to when this is over to being killed, all because of Gustav. I suppose we were lucky Gustav “did very little”. The Republicans, the Democrats, and you can all take your precious politics and shove them right up your asses.
I stand corrected. Sorry, the way it’s being reported is that it declined quicklky in strength and veered away from heavily populated areas and did not do much damage.
I only feel the tiniest bit of empathy for Republicans because hey, it ain’t like their principles just got prostituted yesterday. The GOP sold out to the crazies and fundies 8 years ago. Lies and hate work, BIG lies are even better and screw actually governing. Republicans now stand for throwing money around like confetti and twisting the Constitution into a theocracy.
They may win. There are a hell of lot of greedy, stupid, racist, arrogant shits in this country. Shrub/Rove established appealing to the absolute nastiest, lowest common denominator in people–and it worked. A lot of people are cheering McCain the ‘maverick’, crackwhore Cindy Lou the trophy wife and of course Creationist Barbie.
It should all be laughable, especially since McCain got well grilled by Shrub’s scorched earth politicking. His resolve to run an ethical campaign didn’t last long. He’s just another neocon whore. He’ll do anything, say anything, be anything, no matter how scummy, if it will get him elected.
Know what I really hate? McCain could have chosen Olympia Snowe of Maine, or Kay Baily Hutchinson, both women with massive experience and integrity to burn. But who does he choose? The creationist soccer mom with zero experience but who loves guns. He could have tried to pull the party back from the dregs. So much for Mr. Maverick.

The GOP sold out to the crazies and fundies 8 years ago.
Eight years? Seems like the whole thing started with Goldwater and the sale was mostly complete when Reagan was inaugurated. Just because the Bible thumbers were finally invited to select the White House drapes in 2000 doesn’t mean the sellout wasn’t largely effected years before.

Eight years? Seems like the whole thing started with Goldwater and the sale was mostly complete when Reagan was inaugurated. Just because the Bible thumbers were finally invited to select the White House drapes in 2000 doesn’t mean the sellout wasn’t largely effected years before.
From everything I’ve read, Goldwater paid fundamentalists scant attention. Reagan was the one who deliberately let that genie out of the bottle. His courting of Jerry Falwell and similar bottomfeeders was an integral part of the ‘Regan Revolution’.
Of course Reagan was just a facile whore. Goldwater, for all this faults, wasn’t. He was sort of the Truman of the Republican party but he wasn’t lucky enough to slide sideways into office.