I am 19 and got a DUI for weed in MS. I need advice please!

Here’s what hurts you with marijuana, it is illegal to possess, from Mississippi statute:

My understanding of the biology is marijuana, you can’t easily tell based on chemical tests how recently the person used it, so those aren’t even that helpful. But Brasel19 admitted to the arresting officer to having used marijuana shortly before the arrest, which would if this actually was contested at trial be pretty strong evidence against him suggesting he was under the influence of a drug which is unlawful to possess.

So in Mississippi, essentially if they can prove you were under the influence of an illegal substance, it does not matter about field sobriety tests and chemical concentration amounts etc, once they’ve demonstrated you had used it, you’ve met the statutory requirements for a conviction.

Historically, DUI in the past was based on demonstrable impairment. Basically an officer found someone driving drunk, and would testify that say, they found the guy passed out in his car at a stop light. That’s obvious evidence of impairment. Or they asked him to step out of the car, the guy fell out of the car and was unable to stand on his own, and had pissed himself. That’s obvious evidence of impairment. Some people were not so clearly impaired, so they developed a standardized field sobriety test. But “physical signs” of impairment can be successfully fought in court in some circumstances. So they eventually modified DUI laws, in addition to the old way of convicting someone (by collecting evidence demonstrating they were actually impaired) the States introduced “per se limits” of blood alcohol concentration, if you were found to have a BAC above those limits that was a statutory violation. The State did not have to prove you were impaired in any other way, once you were over that limit the law said you were impaired and guilty.

With many states and marijuana, the law is similar to that per se limit, except the limit is “any usage” so if they can prove you were using marijuana and driving, that makes you guilty of impaired driving.

Now, where a lawyer can help the OP is in negotiating this. And btw, Brasel19 you were 100% right to be polite and helpful to the police officer. That can’t always help you, but sometimes it certainly does. And if never hurts you, there is nothing you can do after the incident to repair being an asshole to the cop during the incident. While you made some legal errors, you certainly may have helped yourself by being polite with the police officer.

In some areas of the country, you get your public defender and he’ll talk to the local prosecutor. They may talk to the arresting officer, and they may come to an agreement where maybe the officer doesn’t appear for the court date and the DUI charge is dismissed. But in the last ten years (and I’m not a lawyer or anything) just from my observation localities have gotten less likely to use this traditional “mulligan” technique for letting people out of DUIs. So politically the prosecutor’s hands may be tied.

At the very least though, the fact that there is no minimum jail sentence means your good behavior will insure you will not face jail time for this, and there may be formalized diversion or expungement programs in Mississippi that you can take advantage of.

A lot of states it used to be sort of understood a first offense DUI, unless you had dome something egregious, would get knocked down to reckless driving, but with the more serious approach to drunk driving these days it is not nearly so common anymore.

If the number the lawyer quotes you just seems too high, remember that your insurance rates are going to skyrocket if you are convicted of a DUI. On that alone, it’s probably worth paying thousands to a lawyer: you’ll pay more than that in increased premiums over the next five years.

Thank you Martin Hyde. Your post was very helpful on further understanding where Im at. My parents have found a lawyer that is supposed to be the best in the area for my situation (and has a payment plan). Again thanks to everyone who posted.

I know that’s another reason why I need to resolve this. I only have liability coverage on my vehicle and its still not cheap, any more will really hurt my wallet.

Thank you Martin Hyde for the explainer.

Brasel19, good luck!

IME, lawyers in situations like this don’t do one goddamn thing except make you a little less financially secure. The only mitigating factor in the OP’s case that might warrant getting a lawyer is the fact that no test (of any kind) was administered at the scene or afterwards.

I’m still going to speak with my layer and exercise every possibility that I have to perhaps ease my charges. I accept that I did something wrong, I just don’t want a DUI on my record.

My experience is the polar opposite. Everyone I know who has had a similar situation and hired an attorney, (with no priors, and not major weight) has pled to disorderly conduct or similar and received probation.

One friend represented himself and was found guilty of multiple offenses including unsafe motor vehicle operation, possession, etc.

It’s definitely true sometimes the lawyer can’t do anything for you. You’ve given evidence against yourself that is fairly strong, in that you admitted to having smoked marijuana before driving. And the possession charge you basically have no chance of beating on the merits.

In some jurisdictions, often due to political concerns and modified laws to “toughen up” on drunk driving, there is just very little the prosecutor can do. You’ll be offered the standard package regardless, which for a first offense in a jurisdiction that does not mandate jail time for the first offense, would probably be community service and a fine.

Almost every State, there is also a DMV (or equivalent) “administrative process.” This is a civil procedure separate from the criminal case. You can contest in a civil hearing the revocation of your license. Usually if you lose it, you have to go through a decent bit of expense and headache to get it back (alcohol education classes and such, not sure if those are required for marijuana offenders.)

Where a paid lawyer is nice, is they will generally help you with both the criminal case and the civil process, a public defender will only assist you with the criminal portion of the DUI.

If there are any ways to “massage” your case through the system, for example maybe the officer doesn’t show for the DMV hearing and/or the court hearing, or maybe you get to plea to possession and the DUI charge is dropped or etc, a lawyer who practices in the local jurisdiction is by far the best chance you have of getting your case handled in such a way. But some jurisdictions, those options just aren’t available, lawyer or no. But it’s always worth having the lawyer.

My experiences couldn’t be more different. I only WISH I had never wasted the money that I did…It did me NO good.

Things have been somewhat similar in my experience. I was arrested for DUI in the early 80s in Louisiana, and beat the charges by hiring a lawyer. That was a very different climate from today though, when DUI was not taken nearly as seriously.

One thing that helped me beat it, is I outright refused a field sobriety or breathalyzer, so they essentially had no evidence against me. Nowadays, refusing to submit to a test is actually criminalized itself, and/or an automatic license revocation.

I’ve been a regular at a friend’s bar nearby for years, and have ran into a lot of DUI cases. About ten years ago, the best case scenario was you paid a lawyer who talked to the prosecutor and then the cop no-showed your DMV hearing so no license revocation, and you got to plead to reckless driving or some other “soft” driving offense–sometimes depending on the case, you may even have all charges dismissed.

But in recent years, both the State and this area have gotten more and more serious about DUI. There are now “aggravated DUI” laws where you get a more serious punishment on a first time offense just because the BAC is high, and due to a combination of laws and politics local prosecutors simply aren’t able to offer the deals they once did. Around here, it used to be if it was a first time thing and your BAC was under .10, and your lawyer was half competent, they just dismissed the charges completely. That doesn’t happen anymore.

But only attorneys local to your jurisdiction can navigate this sort of thing, because they know the principals involved, the local political/legal climate, and what sort of deals can be had.

Martin Hyde you are a huge help!!

You have a bigger problem than the DUI. You are also charged with possession of marijuana in a motor vehicle. From this cite, you are facing a fine of up to $1,000.00, up to 90 days in jail, and a driving license suspension of six months on that charge alone, plus the fine for the DUI.

It is not possible to plea bargain a DUI to a lesser charge in Mississippi. The statute prohibits it. It may be possible to negotiate a plea where you cop to DUI in return for the possession charge to be dropped.

  1. Stop smoking marijuana
  2. Get a lawyer
  3. ???
  4. Profit! (or at least not get punished too badly)

Your lawyer will tell you what your options are for step 3.

Profit?

Get a Lawyer…

I am not a lawyer, but I’m guessing your lawyer might be able to negotiate a plea for no jail time but probably include probation, classes, community service and such. In my state for a alcohol DUI the probabation is normally “informal” (No checking in with an officer, just don’t get any more charges) for a year but it may be different for you in a different jurisditction with drugs involved.

He told the officer that he’d just been smoking (prior to driving) and the officer had his bowl with weed still in it (and probably smelling fresh).

OP pretty much asked for the DUI ticket. Was the officer supposed to let him go and not enforce the law?

Is there any test that can objectively identify the level of impairment from weed? If not, then a field sobriety test could have worked against the ticket in that it can also show that you are not impaired (no matter how much weed you claim to have smoked).

Whether or not a given individual stopped is actually impaired by their level of intoxication is irrelevant. The idea behind the limits is that by those levels, some people would be impaired. There’s no practical way to have a law that allows people to drive until they feel impaired.

Also, self-reported ability to function at particular levels of intoxication isn’t exactly reliable data. Never been around an embarassingly wasted person who insists they’re fine?

My point was that the OP confessed to the crime of DUI so the officer didn’t need to give him a field sobriety test.

Unfortunately a DUI has other repercussions, it will limit your ability to travel, Canada for one will not allow you in till several years after the end of any sentence you receive, and you will have to apply for a Visa and show that you have reformed. Other countries have similar restrictions.
So it is well worth you hiring a lawyer to try to get the charged reduced to something that wont have life long repercussions for you.