"I am a Morman"

Perhaps the priests wanted a second bite at the apple and/or there were some altar boys they didn’t get to bone the first time around.

Is there any particular reason they think it’s a good thing to be against homosexuality though other than "God and the LDS Prophet say so)?

What would happen if the LDS church suddenly started endorsing homosexuality as a good, acceptable thing? Would the members of the church suddenly accept them with open arms?

Lots of people think that homosexuality is a bad thing because: God says so. It’s gross. I don’t like the idea, Anatomically men and women were designed to fit together, etc. They’re not very compelling reasons to be anti-gay.

If you believe in God, and believe he has opinions about such things, then other reasons pale in comparison, wouldn’t you say?

Well I can’t really argue with that. Good point.

A key question becomes why you accept someone else’s word for it that god holds X opinion.

That’s a question hardly specific to Mormons, though.

No, but it means that we should feel free to evaluate people’s attitudes without regard for their claims that they get their opinions from a higher authority, because in the end everyone is his or her own higher authority.

If they’re so image-savvy, how come people can’t spell “Mormon” yet?

Well, sure. But if we’re evaluating Mormons as Mormons (which seems to be more the conversation we’re having here), we have to assume not just a higher authority, but an LDS sort of higher authority.

Or you can have the “your invisible sky pixie is telling you to believe some really stupid things” conversation, but that’s really a pretty short and uninteresting conversation.

Yes. You. Post 54.

It’s simply intellectual laziness. Win arguments by invoking Hitler. Sure, technically you may have a point, but if that’s the best you’ve got, then it’s skating on thin ice.

Failing to read and understand posts before criticizing them on any grounds (including this one) is intellectual laziness on your part.

Have you figured out yet just what argument (or point within an argument) I was trying to win by invoking Hitler? Because there’s the problem with your invocation of Godwin. You’re just *assuming *I was trying to do that, apparently without actually reading past the word “Hitler.”

So kindly take your incredibly off-target invocation of Godwin and move on down the hall, OK?

Oh yeah: Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler!!! There’s a dozen more Godwin violations for you.

As in “When life gives you Morms…”

No, the real question is, ‘How do you justify making everyone else live according to what you believe?’

No one has a problem with you believing whatever you wish, (based on a book, or a god fairy, or what your Mama said!) But how, exactly, is it that you think your beliefs, though a minority opinion, should shape policy for everyone?

Isn’t it the same question at the heart of the abortion debate? The gay marriage question? Don’t ask, don’t tell repeal? It’s almost like the devout Christian thinks his piety trumps democracy somehow.

Doesn’t it come down to; this is a democracy and yours is the minority opinion?

I can empathize that it truly sucks to feel so righteously correct and yet, have your opinions over ridden by the majority view. Just ask women who fought for abortion rights. It must suck all the more, when your long held views on such matters have enjoyed the protection of the majority position for so very long.

Whatever happened to good old-fashioned used car commercials? I’d rather listen to a used car salesman make his pitch than hear about religion every 5 minutes.

It’s an O, dammit!
Othel Morman.

Whenever I hear “My name is Kathy [or whatver], and I’m a Mormon” I just think of the stereotypical sitcom AA meeting Apathetically: “Hiiii Kaaaaathyyy…”

::nods to Elder Price::

This place isn’t terrible for getting literary references, but so few pick up on the Broadway ones.

Hey, Gladys Knight is a converted Mormon. So far as I know, though, none of the Pips are.