About the paint/textured wall: the ‘pebbled’ look is usually acheived by adding a texturizer. If you take a close up picture of your wall into a good hardware store or paint shop they should be able to sell you some. Just mix it with your paint and there you have it.
The texture under the paint is sprayed on, thinned drywall mud. The common name for the texture is ‘Orange Peel’ Some of it is thicker, some of it is thinner. It’s done to help hide imperfections in the finished joints of the drywall. And, people do seem to like the texture anyway. Sort of a win win situation.
You can paint over everything(though I’m stunned that you think you need to re-paint the whole damn room). The pebbly look is texture under the existing paint. You don’t need to sand it all down. Don’t try, you’ll just make a VERY big mess.
If the woman scrubbed so hard that some of the texture was removed, that area can be re-textured.
The woman yelling at her son was way out of line, and good on ya for trying to correct it.
By the way, you’re making WAY to big of a deal about this.
It’s a TV you didn’t want.
A bit of drywall and paint.
And old end table, that sounds like it can be fixed.
The worst part was the woman yelling at her kid.
You’re a real Prince.
*What in the hell were you thinking * allowing a woman and a 12 year old boy to hoist a 27" TV all by themselves, even if she insisted she could “handle it”. A TV that size usually weighs 90-110 lbs. Given the size and diffcultly grasping a TV that would be a good lift for two grown men to manage carefully without damaging something. They obviously didn’t want to bother you, but it was your responsibilty to have a common sense moment and insist on helping, especially when your possessions are at risk. There are times to get off your ass and insist on helping, and this was one of those times.
You need to take yourself out of the puffed up with indignation category, and yourself solidly into the clueless, irresponsible dumbass category by allowing them to do it. Going after her for the smashed end table seems like pure nastiness. You’re lucky she didn’t injure herself or the property damage involved would be the least of your worries.
When my dad bought the 32" Toshiba i was 13 then, and we managed to carry it from the van, thru the garage which had mom’s Buick parked in there, thru the doorway, around a corner, and place it on the stand with no problem.
I have one of those myself. I carry it all by myself and I’m not particularly strong or tall.
And his offer was only for people to carry it themselves. My husband should not lift a thing, but people always make assumption because he looks like a big strong man. Someone who says they won’t move something should not be asked or expected to do so.
I believe you! I also have a 32 inch Toshiba. It weighs approximatley 150 lbs out of the box. The two deliverymen left it at my door and I had to hump it into the rec rom by myself (no fun). My 14 year old son and I have lifted things weighing well over 200 lbs. There is a huge, huge difference in lifting and handling capacity between a grown man and his 13 year old son, and a women and her 12 year old.
The weak link is the woman. Women typically (not always) do not have great upper body strength for handling heavy loads. Putting 12 year old and a typical woman on two ends of a bulky, unwieldy 100 lb load is a foreseeable prescription for disaster.
Hell my 13 y/o can move our 27" by himself. Of course my 13 y/o is 5’9" and 175lbs.
If you can pick a 100 lb 27" TV and carry it around without some difficulty you are a substantially stronger than average women. I’m 6"3" and I can benchpress 300 lbs. Picking up a boxy 100 lb TV is still a major grunt, even for me to handle by myself.
TV sets are awkward to carry, the weight is not evenly distributed. And there’s that feeling of carrying something expensive and fragile which makes it even worse. Carrying a sack of cement of the same weight is nowhere near as “heavy”.
Nothing else to add.
Are you missing the portion of the OP where he offered to help them carry it but was refused?
Are you missing the portion of my initial post (see quoted below) where I made note of that, but told him he should have* insisted*? An eager pair of 7 year olds can offer to mow my yard. I have to apply some situational common sense as to whether that is wise thing to allow them to do. Letting an average woman and a 12 year old hoist a 100 lb TV around my house without assistance falls solidly into that category.
So a 100 lb. TV divided by two people is 50 lbs/person (give or take depending on who carries the load higher). Certianly that’s not too difficult.
And if two 7 year olds had insisted that they could move the TV, I’d say you step in and stop them. We are dealing with an adult here, who, weak and helpless woman as she may be, is still capable of determining what she can and cannot lift.
If it was a suitcase or handled trunk quite possibly, but bulky, unwieldy 100 lb loads with poor purchase and uncooperative centers of gravity are difficult to handle, and are very demanding of hand, wrist and upper arm strength. It’s not like picking up a 50 lb child and carrying them on your shoulder, which many women can manage to do quite easily.
OK, so you pick up the TV and the center of gravity is towards the screen. So, you flip it so the screen is on the bottom and the weight more evenly distributed.
Problem solved with no fancy weight-lifter engineer words.
I don’t doubt that it is heavy and unwieldy to carry (even for a big, strong weight lifter like you), but I honestly don’t think it’s that big a problem for most people, regardless of their hand, wrist and upper arm strength.
If I was going to lay the blame on something here, it would be poor coordination between the two of them and not the strength deficiencies of an “average woman.”
And they don’t scratch the drywall if you drop them.
This is just getin’ silly. So I thought I’d put in my .02.
It was an accident. Boyo Jim may have been able to prevent it. I don’t think it’s really worth bitching about, cept in the ‘shees what a night’ kinda way.
They probably didn’t even have time to think about flipping it. Pick it up, the center of gravity takes it right over, BANG onto the end table. They may not have ever carried a TV before; I can remember how astonished I was to learn how much of a TV’s weight is in front. (Didn’t break it, thankfully. My dad would have killed me.)
I gotta admit the first thing I thought was why you didn’t insist on helping too. Hell, even make up some lame excuse why all-of-the-sudden you needed to help. The lady could’ve helped you carry it if you didn’t want to lift it all yourself, or if she didn’t want to feel like she was helpless, but a 12 year old kid? I can’t even pick up our little 19" TV by myself and hold it for longer than maybe ten minutes, and I don’t think I’m unusually weak. I certainly couldn’t cart it around the house. Was she a small lady? Unusually burly looking? Even when I’m being all macho and trying to insist on carrying heavy things, my guy friends take them away from me. It’s probably for the better as it’s probably just luck I haven’t broken/dropped anything yet.
If I were that lady I just would’ve asked you to help (maybe she just felt awkward allowing you to help since you originally said you wouldn’t carry it) and given you whatever cash I could spare for the trouble, since you didn’t want anything for the TV. It was totally her fault though – IMO because she should’ve brought someone other than a 12 year-old to help in the first place – and if it was me I would’ve volunteered to replace or pay for repairs for the table without you even asking, but I don’t think asking her to pay the damages is all that unreasonable unless you know she’s just dirt poor, or do it in a way that just makes it look like you want to punish her beyond the embarrassment she’s already suffered.
Yeah, I had a 27" TV. Weighed a lot. But I moved it from apartment to apartment myself several times. I’m a mere 5’4" and about 116 lbs at the time. No biggie.
Some people can’t “work that way” though. My mom has a bad habit if she’s “helping” you carry something heavy or bulky. You know when you start to lose your grip or you realize you have to put it down immediately or your back will blow? Now that’s fine. Just say “Igottaputitdown!” But Mom_Crayons, will just let go of her end. Likely resulting in the injury of the othe person and damage to the item. :mad:
Some people just don’t do the moving-stuff-together thing well.
The twelve year old had no problem at all with the weight. My sister helped me put it where it was to begin with, and she had no problem with carrying half of it. And she has had several back injuries, so is very careful about what and how she’s willong to lift.
The woman might or might not have had a problem with the weight, but her mistake was in not testing the weight, the balance, or her own strength. You lift it a little… see how it feels. You give yourself a chance to back away without causing damage it it’s too heavy or unwieldy. I’ve tried to lift plenty of things I quickly decided were just too much, but I never caused any damage or hurt myself in the process.
I thought this was something pretty well understood by most people, and maybe it is. But not by her.
Of course there have been a few things I’ve tested, decided I COULD carry without a problem, and been wrong. One of them was a 32" Sony TV my sister and I got for my dad a year ir so before he died. I knew I was overmatched just trying to lift it over the lip of the trunk, and I should have gone back to the store and arranged for delivery. Instead, I decided I had to do it myself because I knew my sister’s back couldn’t take it, and though my dad really wanted to help, he was 77-ish and I wasn’t willing to let him try. So I got it into the front hall so we could slide it up the stairs, and we just cut the box out from around the TV so we didn’t have to lift it out of the box. My back felt terrible for the next couple of weeks.