True. I’ll try to break it to you gently. You’re an asshole.
Am I an asshole because I think fat people are weak and undisciplined or because I said it out loud?
I think it was the out loud part. You’re supposed to say that “everyone is special and awesome regardless, and that diets just don’t work for a lot of people and that’s okay”.
I’ve been working out at an LA Boxing since February. I’ve dropped 40 pounds since then going to a class twice a week, working out with a trainer another day, and three of the other four days I go on a 20-30 minute walk.
Anyway, I recently went to the fight gym where my trainer works out (he’s a professional fighter) to listen to a sports psychologist talk about the mind of a fighter and what they do to prepare for a fight. Bottom line, they don’t make excuses. They do what they have to do to get ready because if they don’t, they’re not just going to lose, they could end up getting really hurt.
The speaker also related a story about a guy he had been training who would tell him excuse after excuse about why he hadn’t done his daily pushups and situps. His response was, “You know, instead of telling me why you didn’t do it, why don’t you just do it now?”
I see a lot of excuses being made here. I’m very familiar with them, as I’ve made them a bunch of times in my life. I’ve been depressed about my weight before, which has been made harder by the fact that my two younger brothers have absolutely zero problems with weight (one of them works out really hard, the other is one of those naturally skinny people we all love to hate). But the bottom line is that it’s my responsibility to make sure I take care of myself. Any time I eat something I shouldn’t or skip a workout, that’s on me. It’s my fault, nobody else’s.
If I may be blunt for a moment: to those who have posted more than once in this thread to explain why it’s just so hard for them to lose weight (olivesmarch4th et al), let me ask you something: how much time did you spend writing up your posts? Was it more than 20 minutes? Instead of making excuses, you could’ve gone for a walk. You’d probably only burn 50-75 calories, but isn’t that better than wallowing in self pity about how it just doesn’t work for you? It’s not much, but it’s a start. So quit yer bitchin’ and go get started.
Fuck, I don’t know. Probably both.
Hm, stay at home wife and perhaps even a housekeeper. They wake up and grab a nutrition bar for breakfast, while they shower wife makes them a salad for lunch or they buy a salad for lunch, wife and perhaps housekeeper clean the house, watch the kids, haul the kids to foosball practice and prancing class, and dinner gets made and put on the table while wife or housekeeper does the laundry and cleans the house.
I would like such a lifestyle. No wonder they have the energy and time to get out and run 5 miles a day, they don’t have to do anything except show up alive.
Would you like to provide a vehicle and the money for my rehab? Or perhaps buy our house for the full price so we could afford to move to Groton?
Or give me the winning lottery ticket so I could afford to do it myself. Or maybe I should figure out how to kill my mother off so I could get her money … :rolleyes:
Yeah, the success rate of people quitting cigarettes, IIRC, is <10%. Sounds impossible. All the impossible to get thin chubby people would agree that smokers shouldn’t bother trying, I guess.
You’re wrong. The wife is a lawyer. They do not have a nanny. This shit is not as out of reach as you’re pretending to make it. Plenty of people balance their lives with their physical fitness and nutrition, and they don’t need a fucking nanny or a housekeeper to do all their work for them. Get off it.
ETA;
See, this is part of the problem. People who are fat who have given up on it being their responsibility like to create these elaborate fictions for other peoples’ lives where everything is magically taken care of and done for them, so all they have to do is have leisure time and work out and eat healthy. Knock that shit off. They’re just as much responsible for their fitness and health as you are. They just made different choices and prioritized their lives in a way that allowed them to do so. They don’t simply not have lives.
If you think my posts were making excuses I really don’t know what the fuck to tell you. I didn’t say even once that I didn’t have time. I thought I made it pretty clear that the problem is not doing these behaviors, it is maintaining them, and having that maintenance be more rewarding than eating junk food. The problem, as I have already stated, is that I can’t make myself want it bad enough. That is the big mystery I have to solve, and probably the other 97% of us losers too. When I am in a moment of stress, and I weigh the pros and cons of binging vs. not binging, binging wins. Binging wins because it seems to have the most reward for the least amount of effort. That is human nature.
I used to think that losing weight was near impossible.
I couldn’t keep at it long enough before I would give up and go back to eating all I wanted.
This year, I swapped approaches from the low fat, vegetarian, or vegan options I kept trying to do with my wife (women’s magazines are full of weightloss advice, and she had read books on it, so I thought she must have been an expert).
I went on a ketogenic diet (Atkin’s is one example of one) and ate meat, vegetables, butter, cream, eggs, and cheese as much as I wanted (and no more) since January. I am down 52 lb (19% of my total body weight) and still losing, despite allowing myself to cheat every weekend.
My willpower did not increase, my free time did not increase, and my finances did not increase. I simply found a method that was effective (calorie deficit) in a form that I could stick to (being able to have steak, okra, and creamed spinach and still lose weight was awesome). I could not stick to diets where I felt hungry.
I do exercise more now, but only because I feel like I have a surplus of energy to burn. I lost my first 30 lb with hardly any exercise.
I don’t think you’re weighing the pros and cons of anything, or at least you’re not doing it honestly. Because if you were, you wouldn’t be binge eating.
ETA: I’ll ask again: how much time have you spent in this thread complaining about your weight instead of doing something about it?
Yes, we get it already, aruvqan!
You hereby have the permission of the SDMB to be fat and not exercise. Enjoy!
Actually, I came back to correct myself. I don’t really binge. My issue is calorie density, not quantity. I eat too many sweets. I’m beginning to wonder if the only workable solution is total abstinence from these sugary foods.
Yeah. Its so stupid to hear, “But lifestyles are so different these days, thats why we can’t be as thin as our parents generation, its different now!!”
What, are lifestyles set in stone or something? Are we assigned a lifestyle and the government says we can’t deviate from it? Bollocks. Changing lifestyles never stopped anybody from getting of their arse and going for a walk.
You guys are fucking unbelievable. You’re hearing what you want to hear. I AM losing weight. I always pick myself off the floor and start all over again. I just have failed every time.
And YOU are hearing what YOU want to hear. WE are bitching about the people who say it’s impossible. YOU just seem to be having a hard time with the struggle.
Suck it up and keep trying. There are very few calories burned through tears.
Yeah, I had to do that also. I’m not much of a candy eater, but I was downing multiple cans of Mountain Dew a day. I replaced it with water and some of those 5 calorie deals that turns it into an Arnold Palmer. That cut out a few hundred calories a day. It was REALLY hard for a few days, but once I got past the “omg I need caffeine!” part, I started finding that I’d rather drink that than a soda.
You may be like me in that you have to severely restrict your intake of sweets. It sucks that I can’t partake, but it’s a sacrifice I was willing to make and I feel better for having made it.
It’s just more calorie dense than most other meats. Kind of along the lines of what you were saying further down in your post. I don’t think it has to be off the menu, but taking it off helps (at least for me).