Now I’m baffled. What precisely is your motivation for the entire lengthy line of debate you and I had? You don’t actually object to the term “cisgender”, and you don’t actually want to use the term “ladyboy”, and you don’t even think that the board mods were judging them differently, but you’re outraged, OUTRAGED, at the idea that it might have been the case that whatever standards the mods used for juding which words counted as slurs – and you didn’t even know what those standards were – might not have been absolutely objective and rigorous? Or what? I’m lost.
Can you even acknowlege the possibility of there being two different words for two different groups, and in both cases some number of the people in the group claim that they dislike the term, but there are sufficient other contextual differences between the two situations that a reasonable person comes to the conclusion that one of the words is a slur and the other is not? Without that person being a hypocrite?
Thank you for the answer. So as best as I can understand it, a word, that while not insulting in other countries, SEEMS to be insulting in North America, would draw a warning. Similarly, I’ve seen words, that while not insulting or even used in North America, the fact that one or two posters say that it is offensive in other countries, so that would ALSO draw a warning. And finally, there does not seem to be any words that someone could call a straight, white, cisgender male that would draw a moderator note or warning.
My motivation is something interesting to discuss while I am at work.
I doubt that I ever implied that I was OUTRAGED about it. I was just curious on the differences between levels of offense of words that have no basis for offense other than “someone on a message board said one time”
I don’t remember if it was this board or another forum, but I have in fact seen people warned/disciplined for using the term “cracker” to refer to whites in an insulting manner.
Just like all words, it depends on context. If a Client sees their dog and says “Fuck Yeah!”, I will not consider that to be hostile language, even if the word is on the verboten list.
If someone came in and said, “Fuck You!”, I would have a different reaction, and that client would no longer be allowed in my establishment.
Same word, different context.
I am not sure exactly what is hard to fathom about that. (eta:not meant towards you, broomstick, but to others who are having difficulty with the concept.)
In case you didn’t notice, the word “fuck” is the same in both phrases. The other word in the phrase gives it context, which is the entire fucking point.
and of course, if you look at context here, removing the cisgendered word, then you have called your opposition a “dirty person”. The word cisgendered has nothing to do with your insult.
Do you really not understand context? Or are you just wooshing about?
I’m not riffling through, what, 15 years of this forum, and you apparently blew past where I said it might have even been on a different forum because, you know, I’ve been on the internet since the 1990’s and don’t have 100% exact recollection of everything I’ve seen on it for the past 25 years.
And you can be offended by anything you want to find offensive. I can also think you’re a hypersensitive whacko for finding some things offensive that I find innocuous, and you can view me the same way. Isn’t freedom of thought wonderful?
I read on the Internet one time that you sucked dick on a corner for $5. I’m not riffling through 15 years of Internet posts to find it though :rolleyes:
(it’s amazing what people can say they read on the Internet)
Of course you would say that. You are a mod, you tell me what someone could call a white, straight, cisgender male that would earn a warning in the Pit
If aimed at another poster with no evidence that any humor was involved:
Cracker;
White trash;
Honky;
Homophobe;
a few others. (I see no reason to offer you a list of insults because you cannot imagine any, yourself.)
Really? Someone who called me a “homophobe” would be warned in the Pit? I find that difficult to believe. Next you’ll tell me calling someone a “racist” or a “white supremacist” would garner a warning as well :rolleyes: