I don't think I've ever been this furious !

I totally agree with finding out exactly what the teacher said before blowing a gasket. But it does sound like there was some sort of classroom discussion about abortion.

Why on earth was a teacher discussing abortion with a group of 10 year old kids? Wouldn’t it be more prudent to tell them that it is an adult issue, and it’s something that they should talk to their parents about if they wanted to know about it?

I wouldn’t care if the teacher said Al Gore eats babies on Sundays instead of going to church. A teacher should realize that there are certain issues that people may not want discussed with their children. I would be mad as hell if my kids came home and said “hey, in school today we learned about abortion.” And I’m pro-choice, for crying out loud.

Granted, I don’t have children yet, and I know that talking to your children about certain issues can be daunting, but I’d rather my (non-existant) kids learned about these things from me.
I would like to think that someday I’ll be able to teach my kids about difficult subjects, and then provide them with information so they can make their own decisions. I certainly don’t want their third or fourth grade teacher telling them about it. Hell, when I was in fifth grade, we had to bring in permission slips that said we were allowed to discuss puberty in health class. And my opinion would be the same if the teacher made a pro-choice comment, too.

Dragon, What did you do? Any follow up?

I really hope, personally, you told someone about it (what your child said, not stating it as a “fact”, but rather inquiring about it). I also hope you aren’t intimidated to inform us of the measures you took, (if you did take any at all), because some posters advised against the particular action you took. I would really like to know more, and I’m sure people will understand that it was YOUR decision even if it wasn’t what some of them might have done if they were in your shoes.

I am undecided as to when ‘life’ actually begins, so to me, it makes sense to err on the side of caution.

I’m hoping Brutus will answer my question, above.

Esprix

why the fuck would someone do that? i mean it’s fine and all to discuss politics(even though it’s a little complicated for kids) but you don’t go around telling impressionable children that democrats promote baby killing or something… was she purposely trying to scar them.
fuck.
:wally

This supposedly took place in what, a 5th grade classroom?

This was absolutely not an appropriate course of converstation, IMHO. Prebuscent kids shouldn’t be getting sex ed, much less an education in the many consequences of sexuality. Let kids be kids; plenty of time to be adults later on.

But hey, I am sort of prudish in that respect

I also believe that it was not an appropriate course of conversation. Sigh.

I got Sex ed in 5th grade…
This isn’t the same thing.

Well, first I’d like an update if whether or not the teacher was correctly quoted by your son. I can easily envision the teacher saying she was a Republican because Gore supports abortion, and then the kids, as kids do, talking about it and thinking abortion means killing children. Hence the quote. I would be very surprised if those were the words she used.

Secondly, and more inflammatorily, I think, until the facts are known, you are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy overreacting. Using terms like Bitch, Fuck Her, and saying she is cramming her ideas down the kids throat is a hysterical reaction, and goading the OP into flying of the handle with the teachers superiors is irresponsible at best. Fucking witches in Salem had it better.

Let me point out something: THE KIDS ASKED HER WHY SHE WAS A REPUBLICAN. And she, OH MY GOD, told the truth. HOLY SHIT CALL THE COPS, she told the truth to the children with whom she has to develop a bond of trust. Before you flog me, if she indeed said, Al Gore kills babies, then that is an entirely different issue than saying she’s republican because democrats support abortion. Get a grip, before you cost a potentially dedicated teacher her job.

Oh, SHIT!

I’m sorry… I thought this was the BBQ Pit where people generally come to bitch about things.

COMMON! People come here and complain about all sorts of things when they really don’t know the whole story.

She told you what her action will be:

“I’ll be talking to her superiors tomorrow morning!”

So what’s wrong with that!?

She didn’t say"

“I’ll be hollering to her superiors tomorrow morning, and ask for her immediate termination!”

She was just getting her anger out I’m sure. Like all of us. People here scream about things that COULD have rational explanation, but until those explanations are known, posters want to get out a little anger.

Oh, I think 6th grade at least is a perfectly reasonable time to have sex education of a sort. I did ( in Michigan ). Mostly maturation issues, like growing pubic hair and whatnot. Discussions of premature ejaculationand the like can probably wait until High School ;).

Of course my 6th grade sex-ed teacher ( who wasn’t my regular teacher, for some reason he did the sex-ed segment ) also explained why, for purely scientific reasons ( :rolleyes: ), black and white people shouldn’t mix, because black people carried sickle-cell anemia and could spread it into the white population.

sigh Into every life a little ignorance must enter. Luckily I was a pretty sceptical kid.

  • Tamerlane

Ok Dragongirl where is the update?

Hi all, sorry, my days have been really busy lately.

I called the principal to discuss the situation with him. Don’t worry, I didn’t scream at him or anything. After looking into it, he discovered that the conversation went like this.

Child 1: “Which party are you ?”
Teacher: " Republican"
Child 1: “Why ?”
Teacher: " I disagree with the policies of the Democratic party."
Child 2: " Because Al Gore Kills Babies."
Teacher: " Yes. I think we should move on to something else now."

So, the phrase was used, however not by the teacher, but by another child. I’ll admit, I did overreact a bit, but in my defense, I was shocked to hear of it coming from the classroom and I have always been as honest as I could with answering my kids questions as their age allows. I can honestly say that I was not prepared to discuss abortion with my son yet.

It’s up to people to believe what they want to, but I guess I have a hard time thinking that there is a parent out there telling his/her child that Al Gore kills babies.

Diff T, Fuck You. Stop trying to cram your ideas down my throat. Fucking Bitch. If you could spare a minute from your heavy schedule of festering squirrel fucking and anal leakage feasting, maybe you could pull your head out of your ass and listen.

See, that would be an overreaction to. I don’t care if it is the pit, if somebody is calling somebody a bitch and making allegations that could cost a person a job, I think they should get the facts straight first. I really don’t think you fuck festering squirrels, so it would be an overreaction to allege it, regardless of whether it is the pit or not.

Hey Hamlet, I certainly didn’t jepordize anyone’s job. I felt it was a situation that I should have looked into, so I did.

As for telling her to fuck off and calling her a bitch, I did it here, not to her face. For the record though, she is a bitch, there have been a number of incidents we’ve had with her this year.

Um… no.

1st, You could mean all that poop, and I wouldn’t give a shit.

2nd, She didn’t jeopardize the persons job. YOU get the facts! All she said was that she was going to talk her superiors. If the teacher did nothing wrong, she has nothing to worry about. She didn’t say she would bark about it and pull her child out of school until the teacher was tied up and burned at the stake.

I think you would have a lot of work to do if you ever decided you wanted to respond to everyone in the pit who is “over reacting”, and tell them they were out of line.

But that’s just my opinion. Since this IS the pit… I support your right to disagree.

dragongirl

That’s not QUITE as bad, but the teacher should not have confirmed that statement to be true by saying “yes”.

(BTW, I am Pro-Life)