I don't understand what Jenn Sterger is up to (regarding Farve)

Go ahead and report it. I’m begging you. Then we can get official moderator corroboration that you just torpedoed your own semantic stupidity.

Who said that? All that has been said is that an unsourced tabloid report alleging something IS AN ALLEGATION.

nm. I think I misunderstood the target of the jab.

Already reported. I jhave no idea what you’re talking about with the second part of that sentence, or why you think a mod is going to “corroborate” your misperceptions.

The mod is going to see that the substance of your quote was not changed in any meaningful way, so it is not against the rules. Which will be corroboration that your bizarre pedantic nitpickery about the word “allegation” is bullshit.

(Unless you’re talking about the “[…]”, but nobody is stupid enough to think that snipping quotes – especially when clearly marked – is against any rule.)

Well, the source is supposedly originally Miss Sterger.

This is the woman who, according to Deadspin, found the whole thing amusing yet wanted to keep the matter private amongst her circle of friends. Somewhere along the line she decided to let a trusted acquaintance in on the joke - a guy whose job it is to report on stories such as the one she handed him.

Do I have all that correct?

It wasn’t only the ellipse, but the truncation of the first part of that sentence that changed the meaning.

According to Deadspin, but they also say that she did not to give them the texts or cooperate with the story, and they got the texts from a third party. In any case, we have no direct, primary statement from an accuser. Only second and third hand hearsay, and an admission from Deadspin that the pics might not be Favre.

No, see, that’s the point. It does NOT change the meaning. You admit that there is an allegation, but that it’s a different kind of allegation that somehow doesn’t qualify as an allegation. Which is fucking retarded.

That is simply false. I did not say there was an allegation. There is an allegation of an allegation.

Whoa. Meta-allegations.

You used to understand what the word allegation means. For example, could you explain exact what allegation you’re referring to in this post, and how some guy posting on the internet is able to make an allegation and deadspin is not?

In that post another poster was making a direct allegation. In this case, no one has made a direct allegation. We only have a hearsay tabloid report that someone has. We don’t actually know that Sterger has said any of the things that deadspin alleges she said.

What’s the word “direct” mean in the phrase “direct allegation”? Why did you include it? Was it meant to distinguish from some other kind of allegation? If so, what kind is that?

Well played, sir!

An indirect allegation would be where I allege someone else alleges something (because I heard it from their f*cking mouth).

It’s still an allegation.

An alleged allegation. It’s the difference between a primary claim and a secondary claim. If I say that someone told me you are a huge Jonas Brothers fan, that does not mean that someone has actually told me you are a huge Jonas brothers fan.

It’s an allegation of an allegation. The reality of the second part rests on the credibility of the first part.

An alleged what?

A what of an allegation?

No, that post was off-point. Someone else in that thread made an accusation. There was no question that the person in that thread made the allegation. We don’t know that Jenn Sterger has made any allegation. We only have Deadspin’s allegation that she did, and Deadspin has not made any allegations independent of what it says that Sterger said. It is possible that Sterger never said any of that. Unless and until she confirms that she said any of that, then we have no allegation.

If I say that you told me Barack Obama is secretly a were-panther, that does not mean that anyone has actually alleged that Obama is a were-panther. I could be making it up.

Watch this

Someone told me that Aaron Rodgers likes to blow raccoons. I’m not saying I know one way or the other, I’m just saying someone told me that.

Does that mean that there is now an allegation that Aaron Rodgers likes to blow raccoons?

No matter which way you slice it, Deadspin is alleging Favre sent c*ck pics to Jenn Sterger.

Allegations aren’t necessarily backed by facts. They can be backed by other allegations, facts, or nothing at all.

None of this means there’s a quantifiable intersection between Deadspin’s c*ck pic allegations and The Truth.