I forget, do we have a general HurricaneDitka Pit thread?

What ever happened to “If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.”?

If President Snowflake can’t handle being criticized then he can always resign. Or leave the country. As he has advised other lawmakers to do “if they don’t like it”.

Did you defend Obama from criticism this vociferously?

It’s so nice that HurricaneDitka has some friends that try so hard to defend him.
It’s so sad that HurricaneDitka hasn’t got the guts to come here and defend himself.

CMC fnord!

Honestly it’s super sad that anyone is willing to consider that asshole their “friend”. I can only judge him based on his behavior here, but based on that, he deserves to be alone and unloved.

I didn’t post here when Obama was in office. But if I did, I would have defended Obama. I liked Obama. I also liked both Bush’s. And Clinton.

And how does my little post amount to defending Trump vociferously?

I don’t even like Trump and never did. But I knew he was going to win. I just had that feeling.

I simply answered a demand from another poster another to another poster to name someone as evil as Hitler, and I figured the people here hate Trump so much and blame him for everything, that surely someone here would equate him to Hitler.

I mean–the way folks here carry on, one gets the idea that Trump is responsible for every single bad that has ever happened in the history of mankind.

That was all. No need to get your feathers ruffled.

https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=880869&page=3

This thread goes straight to shit about 2 and a half pages in.

No points for guessing why.

^^Yeah–I started reading it and it definitely got ruined.

Don’t you discriminate at all?

I’ve said in the past that Trump is not Hitler. Trump lacks the charisma.

Literally nobody has said that. But I bet when you say, “…every single bad that has ever happened in the history…”, you’re using what’s often called literary hyperbole, amiright? So I bet, if you concentrate really hard, you can imagine that those who do compare Trump to Hitler might be engaged in a similar rhetorical device. So if we can be reasonably expected to overlook you attributing the, “…every single bad…”, statement to us, you can certainly manage to be a big enough person to forgive those of us who exaggerate Trump’s Fascistic talents.

No feathers ruffled. No fucks given.

^^I really don’t discriminate so far as the presidents were concerned. I never had bad feelings towards any of them. Well–Clinton did tick me off when my VA benefits were whittled down, but what can you do?

So far as the hyperbole thing, I agree. But–so long as no one cries foul when someone uses it.

Glad no feathers ruffled or fucks given.

I don’t really give a fuck, either.

Have a good day.

Because for the most part, being part of a gang of mentally ill e-bullies is worse and far more toxic than someone who holds a contrarian position.

You make it sound like this thread exists because we like chocolate ice cream and he likes vanilla.

Yes, Ditka’s statement about the Oklahoma City bombing*, what that is exactly we still don’t know 'cause he refuses to flesh it out, is seen as abhorrent because he’s a contrarian.

*Ya know the thing that put him on the radar in the first place.

CMC fnord!

There are other posters with open conservative viewpoints who don’t have 22 page Pit threads about them. That alone suggests this thread isn’t just because of a simple political disagreement.

It’s a common argument from the trollier conservatives on this board: “You’re only picking on us because we don’t agree with you politically, not because we’re a bunch of disingenuous assholes!”. It’s a neat (and disingenuous) way to handwave away any responsibility for one’s own posts and, as noted above, also ignores the fact that there exist conservative posters who aren’t disingenuous assholes and thus don’t receive the same reaction from other board members.

Along the same lines: “This board engages in groupthink! I know, because everyone keeps calling me disingenuous asshole!”. Because a boardwide conspiracy is apparently more plausible than the possibility that “everyone” is simply pointing out an obvious truth.

I think Sam Stone and puddleglum, for example, are really incredibly wrong quite often, but I don’t think they’re dishonest or trolls. They present their arguments honestly from their own beliefs and understandings, with no interest in riling up or pissing off those they disagree with.

Speaking of disingenuous, your whole post is dishonest. You should feel bad.

If he says he does feel bad, you gonna believe it?

I don’t know about that. Sounds more like he hit a nerve.

Translation: “no u”

God what a lazy, pointless post. There’s no point in engaging when your criticism is so incredibly lazy and bereft of thought.

Alright, so there are often accusations on the internet of people being shills. Someone says “roundup probably isn’t as unhealthy as some of the pesticides it replaced” and you get accused of being in the pockets of Monsanto. If you debunk alt meds, you’re a big pharma shill. Etc. There’s probably about 10,000x more accusations of shilling than actual shilling, if it exists at all.

Although we do know that state actors do have people go online and shill, troll, and otherwise sow discord as a modern age cyber/psyops warfare against rival countries.

I don’t have any reason to believe HurricaneDitka is a shill, and that’s kind of sad, actually. He works so very hard for evil and he’s doing it all on his own free time. He’s not even selling out - he’s being evil and dishonest and acting in bad faith and serving the interests of the Republican party (and by extension usually the Russians) just to rile the libs. He doesn’t get anything out of it. He’s a vile piece of shit trying to sow discord and damage his own country for the fun of it. What a world.

The thing is - if he was a paid shill by the Republican party or the Russian government, would any of his behavior be any different? How would you be able to tell?

Anyway, he’s up to his usual, trying to Baghdad Bob in the impeachment thread. Oh, Clinton was impeached because the republicans investigated him. Trump will be impeached because the democrats investigated him. So both sides are the same, and if you don’t think so, obviously you’re just too partisan to see the truth! Doesn’t matter if Trump commits a hundred crimes worse than anything Clinton did, or the Republicans were running sham investigations for years desperate to find anything, and the Democrats are actually under-investigating and under-reacting to Trump’s multitude of crimes. Both sides are exactly the same. Obama wore a tan suit, Trump can nuke Canada - each side doesn’t like the other’s politicians and therefore everyone is exactly equal.

The shitstain always acts in bad faith:

No good faith actor could’ve said what he just said. The US Congress approved the aid package to Ukraine. Trump has withheld that aid package for 7 months now. Finally, Trump, having to give in and give the package, tries to extort Ukraine into giving him something personally in return for fulfilling the duty he’s legally obligated to do placed upon him by Congress, and from this, Ditka concludes: HAHA LIBS, YOU THINK TRUMP WORKS FOR RUSSIA AND YET HE SINGLE HANDEDLY GENEROUSLY DECIDED TO GIVE UKRAINE A GIANT MILITARY AID PACKAGE. YOU CAN’T EVEN GET YOUR STORY STRAIGHT! OWNED, CUCKS!

The thing is - there’s value in representing contrary viewpoints on this board. It’s good that it’s not a complete echo chamber. But if people aren’t acting in good faith, it’s a waste of time, it’s just trolling. That’s something I can’t accept or forgive.