So, that makes you a Libafascist Compublican Pinkshirt?
There are people who will, to this day, go to the mat for the idea that the Nazis were a Leftist group. I’ve seen two arguments to this effect:
First Argument: “It’s in the name, innit? National SOCIALISM, innit? Ah-ha! You can’t fool me, with your fancy facts!”
Second Argument: “Big government is a feature of Leftist regimes. The most Right-wing political philosophy is Anarchism, so the most Left-wing philosophy is Dictatorship. My political worldview begins circa 1980, and is entirely limited to one or, maybe, two countries.”
The underlying argument is a complete inability to look at context, which is the fact that the Nazis and Fascism in general were reactions to Marxism and a perceived social decline in the wake of the First World War, the fact the elements of the Nazi Party that wanted to reform the economy (the Strasserists) were forced out in the Night of the Long Knives, and the simple fact that Right governments have often been Dictatorships, when they weren’t Absolute Monarchies.
Underlying the underlying is their eternal desire to poke at Leftists, no matter how ignorant and stupid they must become to do so.
Just as the official name of North Korea, the “Democratic People’s Republic of Korea” is factually correct only in the last word.
I laughed out loud.
WillFarnaby is a nutjob, but ever after 9/11 both liberals and conservatives have tried to outdo each other with public expression of piety over The Troops as political cover for some other agenda. This is just my view, but liberals seem especially eager to overcompensate for the historical perception that they’re against the military. And of course, nobody is allowed to criticize The War without first gushing over how they love The Troops.
(disclaimer: am former Troop, do not care if you love me).
But thanks for serving. You could suck as a person in real life, but thanks for signing up to be a troop.
You don’t seem to suck.
You used to be a bunch of people?
You seem confused about something. 9 seconds of Googling should help you clear that up.
That’s a troupe.
Holy shit, Ditka’s stupid.
Troop, or troop ship?
Valiant attempt to steer the thread back onto its rails. The feigned surprise is a bit much, though, considering.
Apparently he takes his username from a former football coach who is a fucking asswit.
And a blowhard.
What makes dialog with right-wingers frustrating is their lack of perspective, or even self-awareness. Starving Artist, for example, was pleased by his own Medicare experience, but still opposes public health funding since it will eventually turn the U.S. into a socialist hell-hole like Canada.
Ditka is of course smarter than an oaf like Starving but finds Hillary’s ignorance about guns to be a more important topic than whether Trump is a fraudster.
I ask Dopers: Would the following be a fair summary of Ditka’s performance in that thread?
Mr. Ditka has indicated that the fraud allegations against Trump U., while probably valid, are too irrelevant for comment, and certainly less important than any misspeakings by the candidate the fraudster defeated in 2016.
I’ve asked Mr. Ditka to research Trump U. and report his conclusions. I will retract the above comment if/when he demonstrates sentience.
Buddy, you don’t know Ditka from Shinola.
Shut up, you fucking troll.
Regards,
Shodan
I’m glad you commented on this, as I was rather taken aback as well. He appears able to list chapter and verse on any number of Hillary Clinton’s failings, but Trump University and the cataloging of Trump’s 2000+ lies is beneath concern. How can one know what one opposes without understanding what one supports?
Shodan’s eloquent rebuttal notwithstanding.
Shodan was eloquent? :eek: Please quote him when that happens, as otherwise his posts don’t appear on my machine.
Well, “Shut up, you fucking troll” carries a certain amount of pithiness, even if it doesn’t advance the conversation. I don’t set a very high bar for his contributions.
In other words, you didn’t miss anything.