Some guys are kinda crude, talk like “trying to get into her pants”. Even so, that’s not what it means.
I haven’t added the following poster to my Ignore list. Although he has an eye-popping lack of self-awareness of his own racism, I don’t think he’s a troll or a sealion.
Can we set aside discussion of my own psychological problems for a moment, and ask you to address an underlying issue?
What do YOU think about HD’s view that Tim McV¿¿¿¿'s massacre of hundreds of Americans was ¿¿¿ ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿ ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿ ? Some of us libtards are awe-struck by that sentiment. I, for one, am quite curious what your ilk thinks. Would it be possible for you to cease rejoicing at my breakdown for a moment, and answer that question?
Let's set aside my own personal drama for a moment. If every single one of us (excepting of course **Annoying** and the other trolls) put HD on Ignore wouldn't that improve quality here? What if nobody ever replied to HD's posts?My answer, of course, will be misinterpreted. But I’m one of those who think that Bill Maher had a legitimate point about the bravery of the 9/11 hijackers. You might disagree with the method you might disagree with ideology but it’s brave or crazy to sacrifice your life for your cause. People deliberately misrepresented what he said for their own purposes.
Concerning Tim McVeigh? I don’t think the issues that the federal government has are best resolved with warfare be it regular or irregular. If war was justified, which I don’t think it is, would federal buildings be a legitimate target? Our own history as a nation that wages war the answer seems clear. Now, even carefully worded (which I very rarely do) to explicitly say I don’t think war against the US is justified, I still expect the usual subjects, aka the hive, to parse my answer most dishonestly and uncharitably.
ETA. I didn’t answer your question! It’s before my coffee. HD’s thoughts on the subject? I’m not really sure. I don’t think he’s saying mass murder is right. Just that he understands what motivated McVeigh. If you understand the motivation and understand the tactic even if it’s an immoral or unrighteous action it’s still understandable technically speaking. Understanding an issue doesn’t necessarily mean agreement.
Anyways, what makes you think I’m a so-called racist? I actually do have black friends.
This answer makes me suspect you don’t actually understand what racism is. Having black friends, or even black family members, isn’t a defense against accusations of any kind of racism except the kind that mandates brutal and violent segregation (or worse)… and the vast majority of racism isn’t of that sort.
I’ll add that I don’t recall any racist posts from you off the top of my head.
Entitled asshole HD – Unemployed people are lazy and stupid:
https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21934381#post21934381
Okay. That’s funny.
Unless you were actually serious. Then your level of cluelessness is honestly frightening.
If octopus was joking, then I’ll retract my post.
I said it in that thread, but this is exactly the point. In HD’s world, bad things happen to bad people, so the poor are lazy and stupid. Given that their situation is their own fault, caused by their own moral failings, it is clear (to HD) that society owes them Jack squat.
I generally lurk GD and Elections and don’t quite follow the meta interactions between users on sdmb. But how often does HD (or other users) actually appear in threads calling them out?
Seems that the Elections thread hasn’t been attended to either.
I’m not going to Google for a quote, but IIRC you’ve wondered why blacks who complain about police mistreatment etc. in America, don’t just move to another country.
Of course I did. It’s not racist though. It’s pragmatic. I said I’d do the same if I felt like the country I lived in was a miserable and dangerous place.
I don’t agree with open borders and I don’t like too much illegal immigration but I understand exactly why immigrants and refugees would want to leave where they are and move here and I don’t think it’s racist to advocate that people do what’s best for them even if it isn’t always something I’d like.
But you feel like the SDMB is a miserable place. You say so repeatedly.
So why don’t you just move?
What country do you advocate that black people move to, and by what basis do you believe they would be treated better there?
I’ve always wondered about these “I’ll move to another country”/“They should move to another country” nitwits. What do they not understand about “the other country also has immigration laws”?
Is that a St. Elmo’s Fire reference?
That’s what all the trump supporters were saying as to why they voted for him. Why did they not just move to another country rather than trying to destroy this one?
Convenience, mostly.
Checkmate.
A the risk of stating the obvious, moving to a new country is simply not an option for most people. They have relatives, friends and other roots in their American home town. The financial cost of making such a move, coupled with difficulty of finding a home and job in the new country, and associated culture/language change, emotional stress, etc. ***will often be prohibitive.
Someone with little family, big savings, and who can easily get an immigration visa to the new country may still find the move a daunting task. For most Americas, especially poor black Americans, the move would simply be impossible (unless perhaps the move was to a country like Haiti or Nicaragua with extremely low standard of living).
The two preceding paragraphs are utterly obvious to almost all sentient Americans.
When you write “Why don’t they just move to a better country?” the natural conclusion is that you’re being dismissive and sarcastic. I realize now that there is another possibility: that you are almost unfathomably stupid and/or ignorant.
So: Sarcastic Racist? Or Unfathomably Stupid? I report; You decide.
I don’t advocate black people in general move anywhere. I advocate if you are of the belief that the agents of the state where you live are hostile to you, want to kill you or incarcerate you, etc. if you have the means you owe it to yourself to take care of yourself. So, if you happen to be black and you happen to feel that America is trying to kill you and somewhere else isn’t then in that case it’s definitely an option to consider moving to wherever that other place is. Note carefully the conditions. Too often on these forums conditional statements are parsed poorly.
That’s a personal choice and it’s not up to me to make it. It’s not racist to suggest it’s an option. As I’ve said before the race has nothing to do with self preservation.