Irrational squealing has been going on much longer than a couple of decades. Anyone else reminded of Abigail Adams?
Chekmate, quit trying to be the “cool older brother” and find adults to hang out with. Unless you’ve been hiding in a cave for the past 15-20 years you should have realized that playing with others people’s kids is suspicious and I agree with the sentiment against touching, in any way, 12 year old girls.
I think you’re fortunate to only have gotten off with a warning.
SnuggleBear is right. So is Breaknrun…
at 18 you are no longer the ‘cool older brother’ you are the wired adult that is hanging around kids to much.
Garfield226 if you think that it is overreactting not to want a 18 year old MAN playing with a 12 year old GIRL even if it wasn’t what it looked like or he has been doing it since he was 13. Thats your right. But from where i’m looking it isn’t a good idea and I wouldn’t want an 18 yaer old man playing with my 12 year old sister.
So he’s getting hopped up and doing this? He must be stopped at once! Warn Starbucks!
QUOTE from my second post in the thread: “No, I don’t think it’s “ok” to tickle and play with other people’s children without their parents’ (or the children’s) consent.”
I thought the way the situation was handled was overreaction. I think that the girl’s mother, possibly with the girl herself should have talked to Chekmate, explained how the girl felt, and that maybe they’d have to interact differently from now on. In fact, a quote from my first post in the thread: “From now on Chekmate is going to have to be more careful.”
Show me where I said it was overreaction not to want him to do that. The overreaction lies in how the situation was handled (going to the father instead of the ADULT more directly involved, tossing around highly charged words: “pedophile.” All this without checking out both sides of the story…).
My Dad and I sat in our favorite cafe stunned and in disbelief. The table of high-school girls behind us was lining out exactly how the 3 of them were going to frame the employer of one of the girls. One girl had worked for a guy who had a home-based business doing errands and shop-work. He had fired her for something. She and her friends were outlining how they would claim to the police that he had molested all three girls. (He was known for having work for teenagers to do, yard, filing, etc.)
I think that episode had a great influence on my development. I just can’t shake it when hearing about something like this. A claim of abuse has become a good way to settle a score.
The OP should use this a reminder to take some time to look over his life through the lens of “I am 18, I _________. This is something I think an 18 year-old should do.”
-Ap
PS…my Dad called the cops right after the girls left. The girls made the accusation to the police about a week later. It didn’t hold any water with the police.
Ummmm, no. It’s not. It’s called tickling. If it happened in front of an IMAX camera with THX surround sound, it would be called tickling. If it were to happen on a deserted island, at night, in the south pacific, it would be called tickling. The only thing perverse here is that tickling has been twisted into something perverse.
Hmm seems to me that you think i’m over reactting in thinking that he shouldn’t play with little girls. But hey what would I know???
Thanks for the good laugh Garfield. Get your thoughts together before you blast ppl. Or at least know what your talking about.
NurseCarmen… There have been to many cases where yes you and I would call something tickling are hugging and its been blowen out of the water into something its not. Its a sad fact but a fact notheless that we have to live with these days…
My point still is that I wouldn’t want a 18 year old man tickling or playing at all with my 12 year old sister. I dont care if he is a “cool older brother” .
Actually yes it is. Inapropreately touching a child is Agg. Sexual Battery. I believe it’s a 8-12 year sentance in most cases.
You can also be convicted of Attemped Agg. Sexual Battery for even being suspected of touching a child. Yes it’s true.
Even thinking of commiting a sex crime is punishable. Thank goodness for it too.
Does anybody else find this a little chilling?
No I dont find it chilling that someone can go to jail if they think about raping someone. Or think about having sex whit a child.
What I think is chilling is that ppl can say something and get another person in jail that didn’t do anything, yet when something does happen just b\c the guy knows the DA he gets off the hook.
Does anyone else wonder a) who defines the ‘innapropriate’, and b) how someone could be convicted of thinking naughty thoughts?
[Looks around for Psi-Corps]
If someone tells there friend hey i’m going to rape that girl over there. that is a crime.
If someone emails someone saying Hey i’m going to have sex with they little kid its a crime.
and yes some ppl are that dumb which is why thinking about a crime is just as bad as doing it in some cases.
It was mainly Snugglebear who was overreacting, and I included your name only because you’re from the same place and your posts included approximately the same amount of incoherence, but this part of your first post did seem like a bit of overreaction to me:
Though come to think of it, that really wasn’t your problem, just your father’s. Not saying he should have hung a sign around your neck reading “Come and get me” or anything…but that still seems a bit strict. Zero-tolerance, anyone?
I just think that if he’s going to come after someone just for touching you, he’d better try to assess their intentions first. Aggravated sexual assault is a crime, but so is assault and battery.
And on preview, I don’t think sharing thoughts about a third party is against the law, unless the third party is the government and the thoughts are to overthrow it. Or unless you have reason to believe the person is going to do what he or she says. I don’t really think this fits in with the OP, though.
Main Entry: pe·do·phil·ia
Pronunciation: "pE-d&-'fi-lE-&
Function: noun
Etymology: New Latin
Date: 1906
: sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object
- pe·do·phil·i·ac /-'fi-lE-"ak/ or pe·do·phil·ic /-'fi-lik/ adjective
No where in this post has anyone said that he tried to have sex with the kid. which is kinda what he said with the title…
As to my father I dont think he was wrong when I was 12 and I dont think he is wrong now with my sister…
It all comes down to your belifes and the ppl that you hang around. If your fahter didn’t find anything wrong with men tickling you when you where 12 that was him and you… My father does find something every wrong with that but i’m welling to bet that out fathers keep ever differint kinds of company…
I could be wrong and i’m looking for it right now but I think that if someone says they are going to have sex with someone underage or rape someone. and that is then taken to the cops the cops then have the right to go and find out what is going on and assess the comments.
(bolding mine)
Did I misread the post? C’mon snuggle, Inappropriate tickling is covered under several state statutes, and requires genital contact or sexual intent. Good, old fashioned tickling is still legal (save for Virginia, an obscure law on the books makes it illegal to tickle women). Some workplace laws include language on tickling, and surely walking up to some unknown woman in the mall and giving her a good tickle would land me in a bind. The key word here is* Inappropriate, *and nothing I read in the OP leads me to believe that it could be construed in such a manner by even the most twisted DA.
To be convicted for being suspected of touching a child requires corroborating evidence. Sadly, a few such witch hunts have occurred in the recent past, and hindsight seems to show that the corroborating evidence was manufactured. The courts, thankfully, have taken to examining such evidence a bit closer.
Don’t even get me started on the thought police claim, even though this is MPSIMS, I might just have to ask for a cite 
Garfield226
Yes we live in the same place. We happen to be married and we happen to live together.
I think it about time for checkmate to reply. Before this discussion goes anyfurther I’d like to know how the 12 year old explained checkmate inappropriately touching her.
Nurse Carmen…I’ll try and find a cite for ya. :p.
Garfield226 I explain how I overreacted. I don’t see how my posts have been inchoherant. This must really be ruining your day. :rolleyes:
FeFe and I post at the same time because we are married and both love the straight dope. 
Am I the only one who thinks it’s cool that Chekmate can still be the cool older brother? (It’s not like that’s the only life he has, for crying out loud).
I’m 28, and have a group of cousins ranging in age from 3 to 8 who I love playing with. I hope I’m always their cool crazy cousin…
Guilty until proven innocent when it comes to sex crimes. Don’t even look at her. Just stay far, far away.
“http://crime.about.com/library/weekly/a101299.htm”
A man who said he wanted to buy an 8-year-old girl for sexual purposes. An Internet acquaintance informed the FBI and then, working with them, convinced him that she’d sell him her (non-existent) niece for $100. When he came to make the “purchase”, he was arrested.
I can’t find the law but here is a case where the man was arrested for saying he was going to buy an 8 year old child.