Perhaps it was just the two guys in particular, but I was sitting there while they were playing with BI+ (or IR or Brio or whatever you want to call it) and they were giggling like schoolgirls at what they were able to come up with. As new ideas hit they were just brimming with glee and couldn’t wait to try them out.
It almost made me want to learn how to become a developer too. Or at least a better report writer designer. Do you all have this kind of fun??
The cool part is that we can deliver analysis, reports & stuff so fast that our users think we have god-like powers. I haven’t disabused anyone of that notion, yet.
Man are you missing out. The REALLY cool part is when no one knows just how fast you can deliver stuff. Then when your work is done by 10:00 am but you said you’d have the new report by end-of-day, you can kick back and surf the web, read the SDMB etc.
I am a developer and I enjoy playing with Brio[sup]TM[/sup] Trains and making compatible ones for my son.
What is this Brio you speak of?
Most developers or Programmer/Analysts like any new techie toy, I am not too surprised that they would find enjoyment in an easy to use report writer or some such.
The Brio with which I am familiar is a “reports” environment for sucking data from a SQL-type back end and delivering it up in a GUI. (I don’t work in it, I’m in FileMaker, but I’m aware of its existence).
Is that the one the OP is likely to be referring to?
Making databases do what you want them to is definitely gleeful good fun.
Yep, it is a lot like Access in that you connect to tables and run queries (with filters) based on the items in them. It even looks a lot like Access. You get Results tables and can then generate pivot tables, dashboards, etc. It’s when they go off and start writing Scripts behind the scenes that I start to glaze over. But I am picking up on the basic idea.
Oh, hell yes! The best part of my job is brainstorming with my boss, bouncing ideas off each other at all kinds of crazy angles until they’re caroming around the room like superballs! Of course, after those conversations, I tend to go back to my cube, put my head in my hands, and say, "I agreed to make it do what?!" The third coolest part is seeing the code actually do whatever crazy thing I agreed to have it do, and do it in a way that’s actually easy and intuitive for the people who’ll actually be using the thing. I know I skipped the second best thing. That’s because it’s what happens last. It’s getting compliments from people who use what I’ve built telling me it makes their jobs easier.
zoid makes a good point, though. Because my usual rule for giving time estimates is “Double it and add a safety factor” to allow for all the things which aren’t initially accounted for, i.e. “Well, yes, I said it should always do x, but there are a few times when it should do y”, things do tend to take less time than I say they will. Unfortunately, sometimes people catch on.
The other factor is that everyone likes to talk about their successes at work sometimes, but when we talk to anyone beyond each other, we see eyes glaze over.
(I did that several times over the years on the board, usually getting no responses, once getting a solitary reply to the effect of “Wow…I guess no one asks you ‘how was your day’ more than once, huh?” …not finding the other threads any more though)
I’ve come to start to warn and apologize for all the swear words and muttering that comes from my cube.
Got ya there. I’ve been in GIS for nearly 20 years. GIS does not mean Google Information Search.
I perform spatial analysis and write code that makes it available to anyone that can push a button. Multiple tabular and spatial datasets across WANS connecting different towns and push it out on inter, and intra/nets.