You may be right. I don’t think you are, but you might be.
But should it even be a question? If a woman says she gets awful headaches every time her husband smacks her upside the head, it’s admittedly possible that one of those facts is unrelated to the other — but why ask? Isn’t the whole point that a scenario where we could ask that question is already disturbing?
I will have to preface my OP (what is the opposite of preface anyway?) by saying I spent 25-30 years in the the corporate world, mostly in IT, but had to the meet with the big-wigs and their overlords daily so suit and tie was a must. Now that retirement is here, I have donated all my suits, ties, dress shirts to the Salvation Army. I am sure the gently-worn items will be put to good use.
Oh, and I haven’t shaved my face in over a month. I am turning Bohemian!
Ladies, go ahead and chime in about workplace fashion. This started off as a diatribe against neckties, but I am sure you all have similar annoyances.
-Cabin_Fever
in a comfortable T-shirt, cotton camo pants, wool socks, no shoes and sitting on the porch glad I can wake up late anytime tomorrow. PEACE. 
I have worn ties perhaps a dozen times since 1964. Several weddings (including my own), when I was made emeritus, and a few other occasions. The suit my wife insisted I buy for my daughter’s wedding has probably been worn once since and is now way too large.
I think Trump’s penis length ties will be the final nail in the tie coffin.
Lots of folks don’t like wearing ties. Nothing wrong with casual clothes. But I think ties can look very stylish, and I don’t mind wearing them. I prefer a mix of casual and more formal clothes; jeans and jacket, maybe a tie.
For years, it was said by men’s magazines and fashionistas that men were returning to a more formal look. And of course, that never really happened. Sixty years ago, in many places, men didn’t really wear shorts or T-shirts. And the more casual outfits in today’s GQ type magazine often look pretty ridiculous — neither professional nor stylish.
As a long-time tie wearer I can attest that Tim is correct. It’s easily demonstrated by putting on a tie while wearing a t-shirt (aah, the days of school dances). You can cinch the tie too tight, but it takes a deliberate effort and will loosen up with just a little head and neck movement.
A better analogy would be if a woman says she gets awful headaches every time she watches Magic Mike, when her husband smacks her upside the head when she watches it.
Never a coat without a necktie for me.
I am not reacting against style, in which a finely tailored suit looks good. I am just glad I don’t have to do that everyday, anymore. Although the advice of the wonderful ladies here may have changed my mind.
I may have to change my thoughts, but here in Upper Michigan a suit and tie means you are with *** or **** or *****. 
I think I will keep my Hawaiian shirt, my cargo pants, my hospital socks (another story) at least for another week.
I’m short, and when teaching high schoolers, who were invariably much taller than I, I needed every advantage I could get, so I usually wore heals and a dress or suit. Pantyhose is an abomination. I loathe it. Thigh-high stockings were better.
I always thought men had it worse in summer weather, though. There’s no way you can’t feel like you’re strangling if you’re wearing a suit jacket and a tie in 90 degree weather.
Eh, I had to wear a tie for 5 years at school. A girls’ school.
I have no idea why many British girls’ school uniforms include a tie, seeing as that’s the only time you’re ever likely to have to wear one. Bloody stupid idea in woodshop and chemistry class especially.
The good thing about women’s workplace clothing is it’s less fixed. I’ve never had to wear heels, which is good, because I walk like a newborn giraffe in them. The bad thing about it being less fixed is that there’s a certain expectation that you should have more different outfits than I really care to bother with, and they’re all supposed to look put together. Women notice if other women wear the same thing all the time.
Annoying and expensive if you don’t really care about clothes.
Another reason to hate ties is they kill people. There have been deaths from men’s ties getting stuck in machinery; elevator doors, escalator mechanisms, etc. I read an account written by the manager of a machine shop. Some tie-wearing execs took a walk-through of his shop, and he warned them to keep distance from the tools. Minutes later, one of them leaned over a running lathe. It grabbed his tie, and would have pulled his neck into the bit, but the tie came off—it was a clip on.
“Being at work” reminds me I am at work.
Neckties are a prime example of peop,e doing something “because we’ve always done it.” I wouldn’t mind seeing ties exterminated.
I have never been in an industry where ties were a part of the uniform. Briefly I had a boss who requested I wore one, which I did, but that only lasted six weeks before even he got sick of them (and embarrassed for me) so that was that, never have I worn one since.
I acknowledge that they do seem to make a person look neat and tidy, but they are completely weird items of clothing. I would be very happy if fashion moved away from suits and into some other method of formal tidiness. When do we get the silver jumpsuits with big belt buckles and pointy shoulders?
There was a point, mid-career, when I realised I could shimmy sideways and make more money if I wore a tie and flew a desk. Guess what I did?
That was then. Nowadays less so, I would guess. But hey, what are your priorities? If a friend dies, I’ll have to wear a tie to the funeral; but actually, in that situation, it isn’t the tie-wearing that will upset me.
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I like how ties look, most of the time. My dad wore them, so it was an easy Christmas/birthday/Father’s Day gift idea. But in reality, they serve no practical purpose beyond fulfilling an expectation. I think my husband still owns a few - last time he needed one was a wedding 2 years ago.
I put them in the same category as high heeled pumps or dresses or most jewelry - each to his own, but I don’t want to play that game. I can get all dressed up if I have to, but I pretty much never have to, so it’s all good.
I thought a better analogy would be a woman who complains that her feet hurt whenever she wears heels—but she always buys shoes that are a size or two too small for her.
But hey, if you want to demonize ties, we can always point out who else wore ties.
I wore a tie for a decent chunk of my life. I got them as gifts, bought them new and used, and over time built up a huge tie collection. Then about fifteen years ago I decided that was it. I put them all in a big lawn garbage bag and took them to Goodwill.
A year later I did the same with the three suits I owned (one had never been worn). I very rarely “do” funerals. Weddings I go full out luau style. Hunter Thompson got away with it, why can’t I? To date I’ve never been tossed out of an event for being underdressed. I’ll be attending my son’s wedding in September; coincidentally it is a beach wedding, so I’m good to go.
Sorry, I have to ask. Are you referring to ties worn by Trump that are the length of a penis, or to ties the length of Trump’s penis?
There’s a big difference you know 
Yea, but they have to wear vests instead
The running joke in my office is whenever someone shows up wearing a tie the first question asked is “court date or job interview?”
I like your style, Dude. Want a White Russian?
