I hate this-I HATE IT I HATE IT I HATE IT!!!

I feel bad responding to somebody who may go on sabatical…like I’m some idiot who has to get the last word. But in case you do see this, I’d like to state for the record that:

  1. I never said that earning a college degree, any degree, is easy.

  2. I never called you a bad name.

  3. If you knew that you couldn’t get a job that paid alot when you were looking to get a particular degree, then it should not have come to a surprize to you that you can’t make enough to cover your student loans. That’s the choice you made, deal with it.

  4. If there are enough well-paying jobs to satisfy those graduating with advanced history degrees, then by all means get an advanced history degree. But make sure that there are jobs available before you invest more of your life and money into something that may never pay off.

-lv

OK, you probably don’t want to hear this, but I’m in the DC area, too, and I’ve been temping non-stop since July. In fact, I’ve never had a break of over one day. I don’t think it’s because of my superlative intellect, either. But the thing is that I registered with five temp agencies and only the last two provided anything near steady work. I never got a call back from any of the other three.

I’m going to recommend Northern Virginia Temporaries to you. My roommate found steady work with them.

I’ve been using OfficeTeam and they have been absolutely wonderful. Maybe you could try either of these (be sure to tell them I recommended you ;)). If you haven’t already, I mean.

And I’m sorry if I’m out of line, just trying to help.

There ya go. A solution. Sounds like the best idea so far.

Guinastasia,

Life sucks, doesn’t it?

Well, get a job that you like, yes they are out there even if you don’t think you might like em.

Could be worse, you could be struggling to even afford one damn dollar for your kids for Christmas.

Get over it, you could hate your life so God Damned much that you’d be living and wishing for a shelter that a local chairty or Red Cross opens up when it’s too fucking cold for you to live.

Get fucking over it.

I wish I had the money to buy my neices and nephews all they want this Christmas. But it seems to me that you have a fucking roof over your head and food to sustain you…so why the fuck are you bitching?

Shit I ran into a guy I know the other day, he had a $70,000 a year salary, he was laid off recently. He was shopping in the damn dollar store for gifts for his kids for Christmas, not a usual thing for him. We both were embarassed but realized our plight…

Oh and I haven’t had a professional haircut since August of 2000, that was a total of $11, Cost Cutters. I haven’t bought any clothes since then either.

Quit your belly-itching. There are hundreds/thousands/millions of people worse off than you right now.

So fucking get off your whiney ass and know that there are people that can’t afford an apartment if even the most modest apartment. There are people that can’t afford a couch for their children to sleep on in the living room. You whiney asshole.

Fucking get off your fucking whiney ass and know that there are people that have more needs than you could even think about. They are simply looking for a place to live and it eludes them. They want to live like many of us do and they fucking can’t.

Posts like this make me fucking sick. You have internet access, if it were that bad…get rid of your damn internet access and use the money to get the things your damn family needs…so fucked up, bitch, this kind of whiney crap pisses me…if you have money for the 'net, the cancell it and make the holidays what you want for your damn kids…GeezusKeerist.

Go work at a soup kitchen or work for a charity that helps those that have fucking NOTHING, then tell me about your whoas.

I have no sympathy.

BTW, if life sucks, you make it sucky…it’s all in your mind and your soul.

It’s that simple, wish I had said that earlier…if you want life to suck, it will suck…it’s up to you.

Pretty basic, really.

You say life sucks, it’s your own damn doing, think about it.

Guin–
While I think that TechChicks post above was a little over the top, and while I have tried to be kind to you in this thread–I still have to agree with some of the things that she said. Clearly kindness does nothing except justify your complaining that life hasn’t worked out exactly as you wish it would have. You claim that you can’t go anywhere because of your meds, your medical conditions, the fact that you can’t drive, and you cannot take public transportation because (gasp) someone once got hurt on a bus. Honestly, people face risk every day. You might get raped, you might get killed, you might have something else happen to you. Let me give you a clue–all of these things can happen to everyone of us. Stop using excuses and start living. Your posts are starting to remind me of a certain Lewis Carroll story quote " I always give myself very good advise, but I very seldom follow it."
I have said this before, but I truly believe that it is true–Please take responsibility for yourself. It is the only way you will respect yourself.

Ya reckon those folks that have it even worse than Guina…had it coming too?

Yeah, FUCK them damned homeless people, and why in the hell should I donate coats and food to the needy. Them motherfuckers are just lazy, right? They get what they deserve, especially this time of year! Maybe it’ll get really cold and their sorry asses will freeze to death.

They ought to get a fuckin job and a place to live. Why should we give a shit, right…we got ours, let them get theirs!!! YEAH

I like this fucking attitude…self righteous fuckin know it all, damn I’m cool…:cool:

Besides, it’s all in their head anyway…right?..:rolleyes:

I’ll second whoever said get off the computer. You have averaged something like 13 posts a day for 2.5 years just on the SDMB, plus however many other boards you post to.

While many high-count posters post from work, I know you didn’t post from Kmart, and you give the impression you have never posted from any job, just from the house. (and maybe school back before you graduated)

Flame my ass if you want Guin, but get OFF the fucking computer.
You have substituted message board chattering for a big part of your life. Time that could be spent on things like “getting my shit together.”

And before you say, “Look, asshat, you don’t know shit about my situation, I have X Disorder, blah blah blah…” let me tell you something.

After I got a leg chopped off in '86 (I can’t stand the "The limb was “lost” thing) I sat on my ass for seven fucking years. Yes, seven fucking years, most of it in a haze of painkillers, alchohol, reefer, and whatever else.

Not saying that as a whine, Guin, but I’m saying that it is easy to basically roll over and say fuck it, withdraw from the world, whatever problems you have. Been there! And the longer you do it the easier it gets.

It literally took some drunk friends, my fake leg on the roof, and an ass kicking for me to get back to the world, and I dare say, if the Web/mssg board thing existed back then, where I could bullshit around the world from the comfort of my house, I might not have made it.

I bring up my bullshit not to take away from you, but to say “I hear you”, and to plead with you to snap out of it.

You are too young, intelligent (for a lefty anyway <G>), articulate, and good looking (I swear you had a pic on Opal’s site a year or two ago, could be wrong) to fucking mope around like this!

OK, compassion didn’t work, so I’ll go back to blunt honesty.

Guinastasia, you’re whining, but you already knew that. Just over 8 years ago, I had no car, no driver’s license, and it was a mile and a half (2k) walk to a Port Authority bus stop on a route which ran twice a day – into Pittsburgh in the morning, out of Pittsburgh in the afternoon. I was living with my parents because I’d moved back to Pittsburgh 4 months earlier because I couldn’t keep up in Hawaii, which I took to mean “failed.”

I had had a temporary job up until Christmas, and when I left work the last working day before Christmas, I left all my stuff there because they were talking about hiring me permanently as soon as they checked my (Hawaiian) references. Instead, there was a political split and it took two months of fighting to get my stuff back.

In January, my folks were out of town, so I got real familiar with the bus system as I kept trying to go on job interviews and do temporary work. Oh yes, the nearest grocery store was also about a mile and a half away. Nevertheless, I did keep slogging away trying to find something. I remember walking Dallas Avenue from Fifth to Forbes in February with a raging cold.

I was 30 years old, never married and not likely to, no friends because I had no transportation except for one treasured holdover from high school, and down to about $7.00 in my bank account. That’s when the temp work payed off.

I got a temp job in a manufacturing plant in my town which did become permanent this time. It wasn’t a high paying job, but it payed enough to cover driving lessons, then a cheap car. It started off a junk job, but by the time they laid me off, I was programming. That let me step into the wonderful job I had for the next four years. A few years of checking out interesting things led to me taking up with a writer and his best friend, which led me into what turned into a blast of a party, which led to me doing something I never thought I’d want to do – joining Mensa who continue to throw good parties.

There was a point in Hawaii when life sucked worse. To be precise, I was out of work, recently hospitalized for clinical depression, no phone, and at some point during that horrible year, two friends walked out on me because I wasn’t recovering fast enough!

Here’s my last shot. There’s a Mensa Games night Saturday night in Wexford. I’m going, especially since the weather’s looking decent. From what I see of you here, you’d like the crowd and they’d like you. Heck, some of us are pretty dead good at whining. Shoot me an e-mail and I’ll tell you where it is so you can arrange your own transport or I’ll make arrangements to meet you at the place of your choice so you can see I’m not an axe murderer and back out if you decide I am.

As a friend of a friend is fond of reminding her patients (she’s one of the two best therapists I know), you have choices. Use them.
Or, in the words of I song I once started tinkering with,

So your life sucks!
And your lover don’t.
Baby you’ve got to change,
Don’t blame the world if you won’t.

[End tough love]
CJ

posted: 12-18-2002 07:17 PM

that sabatical didn’t last long
12-18-2002 09:07 PM

you just don’t get it do you, Guin?

Let me add my “me too” voice to those of BNB, LordVort, cjhoworth, and even techchick68’s (and anyone else I missed). You say you applied at the bookstores in the mall for jobs. What about the shoe stores or clothing stores or gift shops? Did you try those? What about checking the want ads for jobs as an administrative assistant or receptionist? A history degree is all fine and good, but if you can’t get a job with it, you’re going to have to look somewhere else. My husband has a psychology degree. His first job was as a computer programmer. You obviously have computer skills. What about trying to get work as a data entry person?

I just checked my company’s job opportunities, and I saw several that could be done by someone without a specific degree (like an accounting degree, for example). Email me and I’ll gladly show you where they are. Corporate would of course require a move to Ft. Worth, but they also have retail opportunities around the country.

Oh, and I wanted to mention something. Can your parents help you get a loan for those root canals? My dentist works with a loan company when his patients need serious dental work but don’t have the money.

Guinastasia, one of those Pittsburgh Mensans is a dentist in Sewickley who’s a soft touch, as well as a good friend. I can put you in touch with him, too, if you’re willing to make the effort.

CJ

I have to second (third? tenth?) the computer thing. Don’t just get off of it. Turn it off. What kind of modem do you have? Who else uses the internet? If possible, I’d go as far as canceling your internet access, maybe just for a month.
Believe it or not, Kmart is not the only place to get a job. I know it’s hard to find a job, but at least you are living with your parents. Try living hundreds of miles away from home, newly married, wihtout a job, or any money. That’s a lot of fun. You have a lot of tihngs going for you. You are focusing on all the reasons why you can’t.

Did you ever the Eagles’ song, Get Over It?

'Scuse me for a sec.
lurker, thanks. I appreciate it, but of course the next time I’ll be there is for the Fest.

I’ll certainly keep the offer in mind for later, though.

K. Continue flame.

Holy crap- I’m not trying to do a pile on here, but let me echo the sentiment of “get over it”. You’re bored? BORED? Cry me a fucking river.

Take a look around you, for the love of cheese. Read some MPSIMS threads- people are losing loved ones, losing jobs, losing homes. You’re **bored. **

If you seriously cannot leave the house because of a fear of violence on the bus or some other social issue, you need professional help. Call your local mental health association and get a referral to a free clinic. Otherwise, I’m going to be blunt, too.

Turn off the fucking computer, get off your ass, and do something already. Or shut the fuck up about it so that people with serious problems don’t have to read about how “bored” you are.

And DO get off the fucking cross already. Man alive…

Maybe she’s taking everything to heart. She hasn’t posted all day.

Sounds like you’re channeling one of my favorite bands:

Seriously, Guinastasia, you say you’re a Christian, so I’m giving you this advice based solely on that:
Paul went from city to city being beaten, stoned, imprisoned, whipped, etc. But he didn’t worry about how hard his life was - he was joyous and content. He even said in the letter to Philemon (4:11), “for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, [therewith] to be content.” Strong words for a man in his situation. Take them to heart and don’t dwell on how bad it seems to you. It really is degrading to people who have real problems.

Guys, as one of the first to ‘pile on’, let me state that this is starting to be less like the intervention it should be and more of an excuse to yell at Guin. She hasn’t posted today. She may not post tomorrow, but we don’t know that yet. She did post last night after her last post in the thread, but she hasn’t posted since. So those calling for her to get off the computer and get out into the world may have already gotten through to her, and we should probably suspend the ‘piling on’ unless/until she comes back to defend herself.

-lv

I totally agree with you, Lordvor.
I do hope that all works out for her.

I can also understand the ire of some here that have and are going through serioulsy hard times. It’s a bit much to take when you perhaps are having a hard time making ends meet (at christmas no less) and someone is bored due to (many) circumstances she created.

I also think that maybe people have reached the limit. I know I did. A lot times I think people didn’t say anything because she is Guin - an established, respected member. But I guess you reach a point where it’s like: enough already!

So, in short, I hope she realizes that though some posts may be harshly worded, she needs the wake up call. Tough love.

And Guin, if you do read this, take what we say to heart. Just turn it off - simply not posting isn’t enough. I saw from my earlier link a well documented story of many nights where hour upon hour was spent here.

Use that time to write a story about the Romanovs.
Use that time to learn how to make a cool website about Russian Monarchy.
Use that time to grow.

and with this, I have said my thoughts. I genuinely wasn’t seeking a pile-on.