Ah. Another Giuliani for President supporter. 
Fair enough, I guess that’s the crux of it. I will try to recognize the conventions of the Pit better, though it still pains me to see such underhanded and dishonest debate tactics, Pit or not.
I still don’t see the bit where people who disagree with me are called
or where I suggest that anyone who disagrees with the war is
I made a statement about the people who were displaying “righteous indignation” , and a seperate statement about pro-militarists. The second statement was linked to the friend in the OP (remember that?), not the first statement, which was my complete, self-contained reply to Lama.
Now, if what you’re taking issue with is my stance that people who say “support the troops (no matter what)” are clearly fucked in the head, well, we can talk. Kindly precede me through the door marked “Fuck Off, You Reactionary Cunt!”
Heeeellllllll No. Giuliani is a psychopath. I’m glad NYC is safer, but the man wanted to get rid of cabs and food vendors in New York. He wanted to turn New York into the boring suburb that everyone IN New York moved to NY to escape. I would run a campaign against the motherfucker if he ran.
Erek
Really??? I remember, the street vendors had the best damn kraut dogs on the planet. And those big salty pretzels that were like a piece of pure self indulgent pleasure. And lemon Italian ices in the summer. Hell, these were some of the best memories of my childhood in NY!
Christ. The part of your response that I quoted certainly made it sound like you thought “they” (the people bashing Der Trihs) were pro-war, blindly shouting “Support the troops!” even though most posters had already made it clear they had no such feelings. And the fact that DT was basically saying he was pro-killing US troops (or having Martians zap them, I guess) is where I cma eup with my statement about that - trying to point out that I was anti-war, too, but that didn’t mean I was for killing our troops. It was a way of distinguishing the reasonable anti-war contingent among us from the unreasonable, thus hopefully illustrating that the guy you seemed to be defending was unreasonable, not that you personally advocated killing anyone.
As to your last paragraph, as I already said, I’m anti-war, so I don’t really know who you’re speaking to.
[My last hijack] Hi Zoe, I’ll be glad to muse on this further, perhaps in IMHO. I’ll probably start a thread in the next three days, or if you choose to start one first, I’ll be there.
I’m thinking of something along the lines of “Does your experience as a soldier/parent/skydiver/cop set you apart from others?”
It was one of his failures. Rest assured, they are still here, and luckily he is not.
Erek
Read what I wrote again. I said nothing about pro-war, I said that “support the troops” becomes something that people hang onto, even when that support is misplaced. I’m saying that even some who are anti-“the war” cling onto that “support the troops” mindset, out of misguided patriotism, prior military brainwashing, or whatever. Even when those troops are not on “the right side” in a war. And I implied that subconcious embarrassment for such cognative dissonance was one reason why people were getting all foulmouthed and aggressive towards Der Thris, because no-one likes having their cherished illusions about being “The Good Guys(™)” shattered. Because people reacted like that before he came up with the Martian Death Ray thing. It’s a “shoot the messenger” kind of reaction.
There, there, I’m sure you’re a good little house-liberal. Don’t let us field-liberals dirty your nice clean shirt, sah. Thing is, you didn’t come in saying things about him, you came in all potty-mouthed at me, based on what you perceived as my support for him rather than what I actually wrote. That’s what makes you reactionary. The cunt bit’s just a given.
Wow, what an asshole.
And you can get knotted too.
I’m sure this was meant to sting, but I have to say, as soon as I read it, I burst out laughing.
Don’t worry about dirtying my shirt, though. It’s already got a huge stain of Moet et Chandon from when I accidentally spilled my drink while being fellated by one of my high-priced call girls. You keep up the good work in the field, though, so my kind can continue to give lip service to the cause while remaining secretly reactionary.
What a lame, pathetic ass you are.
But of course. I’d expect nothing less from someone who cares more about what the Blackshirts think of him, than what’s right.
I apologize for saying you were defending Der Trihs. It’s obvious you actually are Der Trihs, as your posts both contain the same type of intellectual rigor.
BTW, I forgot to congratulate you on ending apartheid in your country and freeing Nelson Mandela. I mean, I’m just assuming it was you who did it, since you’re such an important field liberal and all.
Of course, if you had the balls to stand by that, you could always report me as a sock - otherwise it’s just bleat, bleat, bleat.
Sure, it was liberals that freed Madiba - ho, ho, it is to laugh. But it’s an honour just to be nominated.
Look, go back to your bread and circuses - I mean, poker and football. Or maybe a Marine needs his boots spitshined - you’d be good at that.
I’ll just stick to the OP here, and ignore the BrainWreck trainwreck.
At least he had the courage of his convictions. He has my respect, unlike the Jonah Goldbergs of the world, who believe the war is right, and liberals like me are a treasonous fifth column for so much as criticizing it, but feel like their superior talents shouldn’t be wasted on actually fighting the war.
What rightwing BS, though. Why on earth should people who oppose the war volunteer to fight it, when hordes of Young Republicans think it’s their highest calling to stay home and fight the blogging wars, rather than the real one, while others die in their stead?
No, you’ve got it all wrong. I’m not accusing you of being a sock. I’m accusing you of being a complete fucking idiot and a pathetic ideologue.
See, again you’re trying to bait me, and again all it does is make me laugh. And it doesn’t make me laugh because I “care about what the blackshirts think of me” (especially considering I’m not currently living in 1930s Italy), either. I’ll give you a hint: it’s because you sound like a 3rd grader, whose only rhetorical device in an argument is to fling poo, chimp-like.
Then come out and say that, rather than trying to be clever. You’re not particulary good at the latter.
Wrong Blackshirts, but that’s OK.
Interesting that you start off by swearing at me, then have the gall to accuse me of flinging the poo. Well, not really that interesting, more what I’d expect from someone stupid enough to think it’s people like Der Thris who are the problem. What America needs are a lot more lefties like him, and a lot less like you.
And on my friend posts. Broad strokes much…
I just HATE when my maid doesn’t properly iron my extensive collection of don’t support the troops shirts! And I don’t do what I am told.