The prohibition is on “foods including things made from animals that don’t have split hooves or don’t chew cud,” not “things with the same name as foods made from pigs.”
In fact, I was told by an Orthodox colleague that there had been found a kosher species of pig, because it chewed cud and had split hooves.
Why unfortunatley? Just because you keep kosher doesn’t mean that others can’t / don’t / won’t enjoy a good slab of pork. (unless you are saying that it’s unfortunate that you can’t find pork inside of Jerusalem, in which case I apologise)
Ha, this would be clever and may be a possibility. It also may bne that the interviewer had a brain fart - I believe the OP mentioned that this chain is kosher, except for this one location?
Also, if lunch is as big a deal as the OP mentions, maybe the interviewer / prospective boss will be regularly taking lunch with the new hire, and just doesn’t want to have to deal with the need to stay kosher to please the staff? Is that really discriminatory?
Having worked in or near the appropriate sections of a grocery store, I can answer a few of these. Yes, there is such a thing as non-dairy cheese; we stocked soy and vegetable cheeses, IIRC. Margarine is made from fat (animal or vegetable), so it may not be acceptable. As for meat with no dairy, how about stew?
Way back in the early part of the 20th century, my grandfather would interview prospective employees over lunch. He would pay particular attention to how fast they eat, assuming the fast eaters were indicative of higher productivity.
I used to really like the iced coffee thingies at Aroma, but when I suggested going there with a (very observant) friend, he told me that it’s not kosher, but “kosher-style”, which in this case meant that they didn’t observe kosher for Pesach, which made it treif year round, for him, anyway.
It’s entirely possible they’ve changed this, but if this matters to you, you may want to look into it.
Do you enjoy being an idiot? “Strange” doesn’t only mean “unusual in a particular geographic setting.”
This is ridiculous. Keeping kosher is not remotely odd in Israel, which, in case you missed it, is where the OP is.
:dubious:
Did it also have wings? Because I think it can fly.
I suppose it’s possible, but my BS meter just red lined.
Perhaps he was talking about the North Sulawesi Babirusa, which, it seemed was considered a possible candidate for a kosher pig, but apparently turned out not to be a true ruminant.
As it turns out, the interviewer postponed the interview last week, and we’re supposed to reschedule for this week. And yes, I am going to ask him if we can pick an alternate (i.e., kosher) establishment.
As far as the ease of finding pork in Israel, yes, it is unfortunate. However, I personally can’t do much about it, any more than I can chain stores that sell bread during Passover, people who drive on Shabbat, etc. It happens, and I deal with it. (I actually live in a neighborhood where there are no vehicles on the streets on Shabbat and holidays, except for security vehicles.) But I can always hope.
SRSLY? Where do you live, Meah Shearim?
Actually, I live in the Shomron, a/k/a Samaria. The streets are not physically blocked, but there are signs posted that says driving on these streets is not allowed on Shabbat and holidays. It’s actually a nice feeling being able to walk in the streets, especially in the spring and summer when everyone is outside in the nice weather.
BTW, the streets are not blocked through the entire settlement; it’s only part. There are cars driving through the other parts, but traffic is greatly reduced.
Oh, so you’re a settler?
WHY, though? If there are non-Jewish people living in the area, why do you want to forbid them from eating due to their customs? What are they possibly hurting?
I was raised Catholic, (now lapsed) but even if I lived in Rome, I wouldn’t be upset if someone sold meat on Fridays.
I guess if you want to call it that, then yes, I’m a settler. We didn’t move here to make a statement. We did a great deal of research on communities before we moved; some were over the green line, some weren’t. We visited many of those communities when we came on what’s commonly called a “pilot trip.” We decided on what we thought would be the best place to live, based on our family needs and what we wanted in a community.
Why, what type of picture do you have about “a settler?”
It’s not the non-Jewish people I care about. It’s that fact that I hope the Jews here (the vast majority) would become stronger in their faith, and that Israel could become more “Jewish.”
Whoa–who are you to decide how other people live or other Jews practice? Hope for what–that other Jews come around to your way of devotion? My eyes are being opened by this thread–it never occurred to me that there could be Jewish people who were as arrogant in their faith as some Christian folk I’ve had experience with. I was wrong.
Not to pick on Jews, but I went to a graduate school (in the US) with a large orthodox Jewish population and administration. Always annoyed the hell out of me that on Jewish holidays where fasting was required they would unplug and cover with butcher paper all of the vending machines in both the school and housing. It seemed somehow arrogant.
My impression is that many (or most) move for financial rather than ideological reasons. My impression is also that settlers who move for financial reasons tend not to refer to the West Bank as ‘Judea and Samaria.’ My further impression is that whatever their reasons for moving to the WB, they are an obstacle to peace.
So before I cry you a river over your Diet Coke lunch, how easy is it for the Palestinian Arabs of the West Bank–I mean, ‘Samaria’–to find halal restaurants in your neighborhood? I’m guessing pretty fucking hard.
Wait, since when is hoping that other people would act as you do arrogant? That seems to be all the OP is doing – wishing, not trying to make people be that way.