I just scratched the hell out of an SUV's paint job about two hours ago

and I’m glad, glad, glad I did it. And not only am I not in trouble for it, I got its driver arrested. With any luck, he’ll have weeks and weeks to get the SUV repainted while he’s waiting for his driver’s license to be restored. :slight_smile:

Situation: my neighbor is an elderly woman who has Parkinson’s Disease AND had a hip replacement just six weeks ago. This morning I took her to a drugstore so she could pick up some needed items, and also have a reason to get in a little walking exercise inside this biggish store. We’re in VT, you see, and between the vicious cold and the frozen slush and such on the streets and sidewalks, strolling around outdoors just isn’t on for her.

There are three “handicapped” parking slots right beside the door of this store, and a continuing row of ordinary slots all the way down that side. On the way there I had been debating internally over claiming one of the handicapped slots – morally right, I think, but I don’t have a placard – but all three were occupied so I just continued down and took place 6.

The shopping went fine, though very slow, as can be expected with my neighbor’s condition. Then we left the store and began creeping our way past the line of cars to reach my car. We were keeping pretty close to the back of the cars, I was maybe 12-18 inches away from their bumpers, to leave as much room as possible for the cars passing along that aisle to get by easily. We had to walk side by side so I could help support her with my left arm, you see. I had the shopping bags and my purse looped on my right arm.

We were squarely behind the car in slot #2 when it suddenly started backing into us.
I yelled “stop” as loudly as I could, and lashed out with my right arm – the idea being to thump on the back of the car to get the attention of the oblivious idiot who clearly hadn’t bothered to look in the mirrors before backing up. Meanwhile my neighbor was scared and tried to hurry, which resulted in her ‘good’ leg sliding on a bit of ice and she fell to the ground, pulling me with her.

Well, you can probably imagine the foofarah that arose. The SUV slammed on the breaks and didn’t actually hit us, though my arm was pulled all the way down it’s reaf as I fell and the bumper was actually pressed against my shoulder as I sat there. Other pedestrians nearby hurried up to help us, especially with my neighbor, who was crying out in pain. Drivers from cars who were now blocked from moving got out of their cars and rushed to see what they can do. It must have been a full minute before the driver of the SUV, a big guy in a business suit bothered to get out of the car and come back to assess what was going on.

Would you like to know what the first words out of his mouth were? An apology? Inquiries as to whether my neighbor or I was hurt? An offer to call for an ambulance?

Hell, no. He took one look at the back of his precious car and screamed at me: YOU KEYED MY CAR! I’M CALLING THE POLICE!

So I screamed right back: GOOD! BECAUSE IF YOU DON’T, I’M GOING TO!"

Okay, there were at least a half dozen scratches, more like gouges, running down the back of his car, from below the window all the way onto the bumper and on. It looked like hell – but we’re talking about fucking car paint! There were two women lying on the ground, one an 87 year old woman screaming in pain, that you almost ran over. Where are your priorities???

(Technically, btw, it wasn’t a keying. My purse has a sort of military style, with a whole bunch of pockets and pouches held shut with buckles on one side, with the other side plain leather. As chance had it, it was the buckled side that was what hit against the back of his car as I lashed out.)

When I said that I plained to call the cops, some sense that he was in hot water seemed to trickle into this idiot’s brain. He started apologizing then, though still mainly focusing on the damned paint. “Oh, forget about the paint, I’ll take care of that, now, let’s get you up and I’ll get out of the way…”

Oh, yeah, right. There was ZERO chance I’d let anyone other than an ambulance crew move my neighbor in the circumstances. Plus several of the bystanders had already made calls to 911. Fortunately that drugstore was less than a mile from the town’s combined police/fire station, and a police car was there within four minutes, with an ambulance close behind.

The cops took in the situation, got statements from a whole handful of people who had been walking towards the store and had seen everything. The imbecile’s excuse for almost killing us? Oh, he’d looked in the mirrors, he claimed, and did’t see us. We must have ‘rushed’ behind his car after he’d started to move. (Oh, yeah, we did a lot of ‘rushing’ that morning.) The cop didn’t buy the rushing bit. We were squarely behind his car, we couldn’t have moved that fast, if he didn’t see us it must have meant he didn’t even look. The driver insisted that he HAD looked, he just wasn’t able to see us. Why was that? Well, it was his wife’s SUV and she’s much shorter, and he’d been in “too much of a hurry” to adjust the rear view mirrors…

Upshot: my neighbor is in the local hospital, being checked out. So far it looks like sprains and scrapes, and a lot of pain from wrenching the not-fully-healed muscles and such from her operation.

The driver was arrested and taken away, to be charged with reckless driving and I don’t know what else, though the cop thought he’d be getting his licence suspended for a few months at least. And, yeah, the cop noticed he was in handicapped slot with no right to be there, maybe there’s a fine for that.

And the cop was all sorts of concerned with the damage to the SUV’s pain job. :rolleyes:

Good rant. As an SUV driver, I would like to denounce the behavior of that asshole SUV driver. Gives us all a bad name.

I would also like to point out that the same story could have happened with an asshole backing into you in a minivan or sedan. Not looking and all that.

Oh, and I hope your neihbor is ok.

Well, I’m not glad you did it. I’m just glad everyone seems ok. If you can get the idiot driver’s address, though, it would be fun to mail him a very small tube of touch-up paint. :smiley:

This interesting habit of backing up without looking, or looking only in your mirrors, seems to be becoming pretty widespread. I’ve been nearly killed in parking lots a few times myself, and vehicle type doesn’t seem to matter.

I’m glad your neighhors injuries were superficial, Starving–especially given that she’d recently had hip work done. The driver sounds like a true asshole.

Your neighbor may want to look into getting a portable placard, if they have them in Vermont. My elderly walker-using Grandma has one that she carries in her purse–if someone drives her somewhere she can hang it on the rearview mirror and park in a handicap stall…

Maybe I read that wrong, but reckless driving? I don’t know who would be at fault here, but walking behind cars with an old lady at a snail pace with only a foot to react doesn’t sound too bright to me. Maybe the guy looked back, maybe he didn’t, but to take his license for a few months seems pretty harsh to me.

Again, maybe I read it wrong.

Holy moly. I am so glad you two are (seemingly) okay. Don’t be surprised if you both have a fear of large cars for a long time.

Just wanted to share my story: I was hit by an SVU last February. I was near the White House in DC, in a cross walk, with a walk signal, when a guy driving an Infinity QX4 plowed into me. Besides the usual bruises and sprains, I now have a metal plate in my right arm.

Try to guess what the guy said after he hit me. The answer: NOTHING. Not one word, not an apology, not one peep. Found out later he’s a partner in a law firm (and his wife is a Bush appointee). In the accident report he stated that “the pedestrian walked in front of my vehicle”. DUH! It’s a crosswalk!

I want to know why it’s practically illegal to walk in the US these days. And why people are driving cars they can’t control.

Nah, you thunk it wrong.

When one is driving several tons of metal around it is incumbent upon one to be on the look out for passing pedestrians. In a car park it is hardly unreasonable to be walking in the lanes, and walking close to the parked cars gives moving vehicles more room to pass.

I’d tear this fucker’s licence up for ever.

So what was the reckless driving for?

IANAL, but failing to to properly look behind and to the sides of your vehicle before backing it out of a stall seems pretty damn reckless to me. Especially near the front entrance to a supermarket, which is an area that’s often swarming with pedestrians.

Even though he didn’t hit her, he still caused the elderly woman to try and evade his car, which resulted in injury.

Forever? Fuck that.

I’m still not convinced it was entirely the fault of the driver. Believe it or not, there is such a thing as an “accident” where several factors create a situation in which no one is fully responsible.

I still say revoking the license is overkill.

Here we go. The usual blame SUVs on Bush bit. :wally

The guy is a lawyer, and did what he was legally required to do in any vehicular mishap, SHUT UP. To say ANYTHINGto you opens a liability can of worms that he would all too well understand.

Sorry about the plate in the arm, and all that, but silence does not indicate that he was an asshole.

I agree that a permanent revocation would be overkill. However:

The drivers negligence caused the accident: He drove a car with the mirrors set in a position that prevented him from using them properly. Because he was not able to use the mirrors, he didn’t see pedestrians and he started backing into them. This is 100% his fault.

Perhaps. At the very least a hefty fine and the associated insurance increases.

Perhaps all of you folks that get a boner every time you think about an SUV would be happier if these vehicle rants were more generic. Jebus folks, I read the OP as ranting about a bad driver, with a description of the car involved. You guys seem pretty quick to piss and moan about SUV bashing.

Probably wouldn’t do any good, either. Licenses are not needed to operate a motor vehicle, they just make it legal to do so.

There are a few more possibilities then “he didn’t check the mirrors”, and that’s why sometimes (you can’t place culpability correctly.

There are 3 possible scenarios here, and this applies specifically to this OP (I don’t care about accidents in general)

  1. Peds were totally reckless
  2. Driver was totally reckless
  3. They both bare some of the responsibility.

Now I’m leaning towards 3 because I think walking a 87 year old lady at a snail pace through a busy parking lot is boneheaded. You leave her at the door and go pick up the car or you go through a more visible area of the lot where you have more then a foot to react. Now the driver is an idiot too, but perhaps while he was checking his left mirror they walked behind the car and then he looked at his right mirror? Who knows, but I feel the onus is for the pedestrian to be a little more mindful of their surroundings.

You didn’t hear the car running while you were walking up to it?

Forgot to mention that that most important thing here is that both the OP and her neighbor are ok.

Vunderbob,

I made no such breech of logic by blaming Bush for SVUs. I only added the appointee info because I thought it was interesting. Personally, I think people have the right to drive whatever they want to drive. However, I do think it’s everyone’s social responsibility to drive safely and to get a vehicle they can control.

Yes, the guy who hit me was an asshole. That’s indisputable. I could give you details, but this isn’t my thread. Plus, the almost six figure settlement really did wonders for my anger and resentment. :smiley:

Let me guess Sax

$92,836?

Sorry, World Eater, gotta disagree with you. It is the driver’s responsibility to ensure that the way is clear when moving his car. If he is unable to see people walking behind his car, he should either adjust the mirrors properly, or turn his thick-skulled head to look directly behind his car.

Almost running over an elderly lady with parkinsons while recklessly backing out of the handicapped spot you illegally parked in is not really a good way to endear yourself to the police.

Agreed, 100%. I wouldn’t walk my 80yr. old grandmother behind a row of cars in a parking lot, so why the hell did you walk your neighbor behind one? And my grandmother still goes to aerobics 3 times a week!

Hell, I wouldn’t do that with my wife, either.

Sam

P.S.- I seriously doubt he’ll lose his license at all for this. Accidents happen, and nobody was killed, and he wasn’t drunk(apparently).