I Love Me Some Eugenie Scott (an Evolution/Creationism in Education Thread)

Did anybody see Eugenie Scott (the director of the National Center for Science Education on CNN last night? She had a brief debate with Jason Lisle (a Ph.D. in astrophysics who is one of the “look- he’s a professor and he believes us” poster children for Young Earth creationists) and though it was a short segment (transcript here [past the medical marijuana part]) she politely ate his lunch. I’m thinking of sending her a fan letter.

She also told Lisle to make his arguments to the scientific community, not to high school teachers (who if they have graduate degrees at all it’s usually in education as opposed to science; some states require only two science courses above the 100 level to teach the subject [and even those can be waived in some instances]), school boards and politicians. She was well spoken, never got “uppity” and made him look like a fool while remaining polite. Beautiful TV.

Stupidest comment made during the night (by a Ph.D., no less):

Play that victim card, boy. (Help, help- I’m being oprressed- the scientific community of course has a thousand year history of squelching religion— or— wait, strike that reverse.)

I wonder if the reason that the world floating on the back of a giant tortoise supported by four elephants is not taught in Christian schools is because Creationism is so weak it has to suppress it? Or if the reason Baptist Sunday Schools don’t conduct studies of the Bhagavad Gita is because the fear the truth of Hinduism will convert their faithful? Idiots.

Point: None, which is why I put it here.

I am possibly the most churchified person on this board, and I HATE these arguments.

You can’t prove theology with science. They’re not the same thing. I wish to God (literally) that people would stop it. It just makes us look bad.

I could go on for hours.

ISTM that after a point they’re fundamentally different. In science you’re specifically asking about the physical nature of things. In theology you’re asking about the metaphysical nature of things. Completely different realms. 's why it is impossible, using scientific methods, to do research on a theistic-based concept such as creationism. Institute for Creation Research would probably disagree with this assessment, though:)