Golden ball? Da’hell? Do they think their balls are made out of gold? Cuz if they are, that wouldn’t be a good thing-pure gold is a very soft, pliable metal…
heh…I don’t think Edana likes us! Awww poor widdle nazi poppet did we hurt your sparkly superior aryan feelings? Diddums!
And yes you are all morons…seeing people as dehumanized stereotypes is moronic. Too bad for you that most people are too inherently decent to believe your crap! All your pitiful stewing in your own hatred would be funny if it wasn’t for the fact that you are brainwashing your innocent children into being racist scum like you. That’s tragic. 
In case you are wondering a poster on thier board was offended by the things we have been saying…GOOD! offending racist dipshits is soooooooooooooo much fun…
I won’t say anymore. 'Tis like shooting fish in a barrel. Don’t want them to think they are significant or anything.
(no doubt I will be accused of being part of the Jewish Conspiracy To Stop White Virgins Playing With Their Golden Balls, that will be fun!) …
My dog used to lick his golden balls and then we had him done…SNURK!
and for any stormfronters reading, no I’m not jewish :rolleyes:
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Look guys, don’t bash the SF members on our board if we’re not allowing them to post here. It ain’t cricket, and it will cause the sort of board war we’re trying to avoid. If you want to bash them you can go to their site and take your lumps as well as give them (though I kinda doubt your post would make it past the review).
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Hello, Infectious Lass.
This is Edana. If you would like to discuss/debate anything, you’re welcome to come to Stormfront and chat.
In case you’re wondering, I wasn’t offended at anything you guys say. How can I be offended? I used to have some of the exact same views you did. I’m only amused, and actually quite embarrassed that I used to be so (dare I say) close-minded to unpopular points of view and self-righteous about something I knew so little about. I can honestly say that my life is full of a tiny fraction of any hatred nowadays compared when I was a self-righteous leftist.
So, if you wish to discuss anything, please come. You might have to follow some rules. The best way to go about it is to follow the rules as written on the registration of this board. That is, “Don’t be a jerk.” 
G’day
Hello, Infectious Lass.
This is Edana. If you would like to discuss/debate anything, you’re welcome to come to Stormfront and chat.
In case you’re wondering, I wasn’t offended at anything you guys say. How can I be offended? I used to have some of the exact same views you did. I’m only amused, and actually quite embarrassed that I used to be so (dare I say) close-minded to unpopular points of view and self-righteous about something I knew so little about. I can honestly say that my life is full of a tiny fraction of any hatred nowadays compared with when I was a self-righteous leftist.
So, if you wish to discuss anything, please come. You might have to follow some rules. The best way to go about it is to follow the rules as written on the registration of this board. That is, “Don’t be a jerk.”
G’day
Oops! Sorry for the double post. It won’t let me edit it out for some reason
Sionnach, we can’t edit our own posts here.
Only hit submit once, no matter what the hamsters tell you. Chances are your post will go through…eventually.
Welcome aboard, and be prepared to grow a pretty thick skin. We actually don’t bite, but we do expect facts, not just rhetoric.
Well, I bite. But only certain people. I’m afraid I might catch something.
Now, then, I thought I should warn you guys-there’s a poster over there named Fenris! I about shit a brick when I read that!
(I know it’s not OUR beloved Fenris, of course!)
I browsed around a little more on their board, and I’ll give the white nationalists this much…they sure stirred up my patriotism for the great state of Missouri a little (Confederate State as of 1863, Abey Lincoln’s illegitimately installed phony legislature aside.) Too bad the confederacy is linked forever with such nasty things as slavery, no matter the image revision job they try to do here:
http://www.newconfederacy.com/confedcn.htm
You know, I think these SF board guys are right on one point. It would be nice to have a culture and heritage that we white folks could celebrate. Rationally, I don’t think much of defining oneself or others by culture, I look to individuals, that’s the libertarian in me. The darned emotionalism in me, no matter how I try to purge it, still likes stuff like tradition and history. W.C. Quantrill is still a hero here in Missouri, and we still watch stuff like The Outlaw Josey Wales to get riled up before the game against KU every year.
Primary difference between myself and those people on SF board: I have ideals that I can still reasonably pursue in the modern world, they don’t. If you have to relate yourself to your ancestors to gain personal pride (myself, I think pride is in individuals, I won’t cede an inch to forces that define me as part of any “society”) then stick with self-pride. You don’t have to put others down for it.
Which one? English, French, German, Irish, Czech, Lithuanian, Italian, Greek, etc.? The notion that there is any such thing as “white culture” is simply impossible. Only somebody who didn’t have the slightest notion of the incredible cultural diversity of Europe could seriously entertain such a notion.
Any of it Minty, depending on your heritage. Irish celebrate Irish culture, French celebrate French, etc. In the case of Americans, there’s plenty to celebrate in American history. Contrary to popular belief, “slavery, theft, and genocide” wasn’t the only thing Caucasians did 
Good luck on pursuing Libertarianism, if that’s what you mean. I’m not being snide, since I have sympathy for people who just like to be left alone and mind their own business. I don’t think your ideals will be going very far in the modern world, however. The state’s still growing stronger than ever.
There’s a difference between celebrating Irish or French, which is to say national heritage, and celebrating white heritage. The former are nations whose descendants have a common history and culture. White people have neither a common culture nor history; to celebrate “white” heritage is nothing more than celebrating having a specific set of physical characteristics, which vary quite widely within the group anyway.
The equivilent to what you are describing isn’t celebrating white (racial) culture, it’s celebrating American (national) culture. American culture, or American heritage, includes those parts of it that were contributed by Blacks, Jews, Hispanics, and Asians.
—I think the reason you have so much sympathy for the white supremecists and have such difficulty understanding why reasonable people object to their philosophy is that your worldview is nearly as narrow and blindered as theirs is, though you’re fixated on a different unreality.—
Failing to distinguish “favoring the same treatment for all people, regardless of their views” from “having sympathy towards a particular popularly detested group” is the problem here.
If I ever have the time to spend arguing with a white supremacist about their views, and by some miracle I change their minds, I very much hope that my success will not be due to me convincingly them that their worldview is “narrow” or “blindered” or any of a whole host of epithets or buzzwords (the worst offender being “organic”- I can’t even count the number of times I’ve heard academics accuse each other of not being “organic” enough in their approach). I hope it will be because I have convinced them that it is false.
We all have our cultural biases… but even that’s actually pretty loaded language. What one person thinks might be a bias could be another person’s sound reasoning: and only sound reasoning can decide which view is correct.
Consider the outrage that would ensue if someone mentioned in polite society that slaves should have had to compensate their former owners (as some at Stormfront maintain, and as was seriously proposed post-Civil War: a cultural bias most of us today have a hard time imagining).
Well, I actually feel the same way about people who think that American workers who lose their jobs to cheaper foriegn labor when trade barriers are lowered deserve special retraining programs and benefits. I think the situation is roughly the same: an unjust law has been overturned: and yet people are somehow advocating that those who best exploited that injustice be compensated by their primary victims (the taxpaying consumers). And yet mention THAT in polite society and you’ll either get blank stares or outrage. Are the outraged people suffering from a peculiar cultural bias? Or is there a reasonable and justified distinction here? This is something we should debate (unless you must skip over it): we shouldn’t just accuse the other of being “narrow.”
And yet you still use the term “white culture” to describe all of them, when there is little or nothing of commonality between those cultures. On what basis does that make even a lick of sense?
Who said it was?
Let us, for the moment, ignore Minty Green’s excellent point about the impossibility of bundling the cultural diversity of European nations into an overarching umbrella term, “white culture.”
Only someone who knows nothing of histroy, science, or art, could think that white folks somehow don’t get to celebrat their heritage.
Who do the Washington Monument, the Lincoln Memorial, the Jefferson Memorial, and the Franklin Delano Roosevelt Memorial all celebrate? White men.
Whose music is played in concert halls and opera houses around the world? White men.
Whoses history is told in museums, textbooks, and historical exhibits in the US of A.? White men.
Mozart. Wagner. Beethoven. Mussorsky. Tchaikovsky. Puccini. Verdi. Handel. Bach. Telemann. Clarke. Janacek. Britten. Glass. (oops, he’s Jewish, never mind :rolleyes: ) Verdi. Puccini.
Gainsborough. Rubens. Rembrandt. Watteau. Fragonard. Durer. Da Vinci. Michaelangelo. Raphael. Donatello. Tintoretto. Titian. Vermeer. Brunelleschi. Picasso. Dali. Miro. Degas. Seurat. Renoir.
Lincoln. Washington. Lee. Grant. Buchanan. Tyler. Arthur. Garfield. Jackson (Andrew). Jackson (Stonewall). Roosevelt. Roosevelt. Truman. Eisenhower. Kennedy. Johnson. Nixon. Ford. Carter. Reagan. Bush. Clinton. Bush. Cheney.
A. To suggest that “white people don’t get to celebrate their culture” is to confess oneself an uneducated rube, as most of the WN clowns clearly are.
B. To suggest that heritage is predicated, not on shared culture, but on shared skin color is as ridiculous as claiming there is suc a thing as “redhaired culture” or “hairy back” culture.
C. Skin color is a phenotype trait. The amount of melanin in ones skin (which, BTW, everybody has in their skin, including white people [but not albinos]) has nothing to do with one’s character. If a brunette white nationalist thinks that having pale skin makes him superior to someone with dark skin, then does he cringe and tug his forelock to someone with blonde hair?
Oops, I put Puccini and Verdi in twice. Well, I like them twice as much as any other composer. :D. You can substitute Dvorak and Smetana, if you like, along with Delibes. Delius. Gericault. Morisot. Cassatt. Monet. Manet. Mondrian. Velazquez. El Greco. Goya.Hals. Possin. Lorrain. Canaletto. Gilbert. Sullivan. Jagger. Richards. Wilde (he’s Irish, so he’s “white,” but he was also a “faggot”–acceptable to WNs?). Shakespeare. Marlowe. Webster. Jonson. Sheridan. Goldmsith. Johnsonson. Boswell. Addison. Steele. Whistler. Shaw. Ibsen. Matisse. Brancusi. Pollock. Bronte. Galsworthy. Thackeray. Dickens. Collins. Trollope. Sand. Chopin. Liszt. Eliot (George) Eliot (T.S.). Pound. Shelley. Byron. Coleridge. Wordsworth. Socrates. Plato. Aristotle. Hume. Berkeley. Paley. Aquinas. Macchiavelli. Descartes. Locke. Voltaire. Hegel. Schopenhauer. Kierkegaard. James. Nietzsche. Bergson. Ford. Edison. and so on.
What was that again about “don’t nobody care nohow about that dang white culture?”
I prefer the term “Western Civilization”. There is much commonality between all those European cultures. Christian tradition, for starters. Do you deny the existence of a Western Civilization?
Try starting a “European Heritage” or “European-American Pride and Rights” type club or alliance at a college. You’ll be yelled at most vigorously by those who support “MECHA” and “Black Pride” type clubs. Identity politics good for one, but not the other?
This is not the main issue, however.
Provide a meaningful definition of “Western Civilization,” then we can decide whether any such thing exists in any sense that serves as a basis for “white culture.”
No, equally stupid for all. Emphasis on “stupid.”
—In the case of Americans, there’s plenty to celebrate in American history.—
I don’t want to celebrate it, I want to learn it.