Who is this “Rush” you all keep going on about? I swear to Og, I’ve never heard them mentioned outside this board.
Band name!
I’m listening to it. What a bunch of paranoid nonsense. If this is what Sam Stone believes, that explains a lot.
What are you listening to? What do you think I believe? Could you go into a bit more detail?
here’s a law against living /
year its worse than shariah./
but where can I go if this/
whole world is socialist/
though we know that it failed for the soviets./
Its 1984 people please notice this./
Fuck a tax feeder time to overthrow them tics/
its in the declaration Jefferson wrote the shit/
So choose to be a free man /
governments we’re over it/
governments we’re over it!/
That. That is nonsense. And it’s an insult to Jefferson. Jefferson may have been a hypocritical libertarian slaveholder WASP, bad enough that; but he was not a stupid anarchist.
I didn’t even pay close attention to the lyrics. I was merely pointing out that as a rap song, it didn’t suck.
But did you expect rap lyrics to be especially nuanced? Have you heard some of the anti-Bush rap out there? The whole point to it is that it’s angry to the point of hatred. Eminem doesn’t exactly pull his punches, you know?
Here’s another new rap song.
Comments?
Doesn’t anyone find it strange that a lot of this stuff is showing up? All expensively produced? There’s some real money behind these videos.
So, were we supposed to assume that the narrator/singer with the stuff in his dad’s house was a drug dealer, or was that just me?
I didn’t get that impression at all. Do you get the impression the “stuff at his dad’s house” is drugs because he’s black?
I liked I Own Me better even though Victicrat has a more polished production.
Fail.
Christian Hartsock you write the lamest disses.
You’re the one recommending this as a way to influence the youth. So if they’re influenced by its lyrics, they’ll be deceived. Why do you want to lie to them? Very little of the world is under “worse than shariah.”
Well, an honest “libertarian rap” would be titled “He Owns You” instead of “I Own Me”. Honesty isn’t a good choice for influencing people towards libertarianism.
“I Own Me” at least seems to be genuine. “Victicrat” has all the subtlety and “realness” of an after-school special.
It’s a direct take-off on a very well-known song that was recorded over a decade ago and appeared in Office Space. As such, it doesn’t look like it was made for young black men so much as 30-something white men. (That may not be what they intended, but that’s what they’ll get, especially since it seems to have come from Pajamas TV.)
ETA: Macho Sauce Productions. heh heh.
Y’all need to read up on libertarianism and stop bashing this guy’s song because the mainstream media (including Fox News) tells you that “libertarian equals Republican”.
Libertarianism is classical liberalism. Libertarians stand for individual freedom (which covers feminist, gay rights and anything else you can think of by placing emphasis on the individual rather than the collective, thereby making libertarianism the ONLY anti-racist political movement), social and economic freedom, limited government, abolishing the income tax, FREE MARKET capitalism (not corporatism/fascism) and individualism.
Libertarianism is NOT anarchism, socialism or conservatism.
Most of hip hop is inherently libertarian, with its emphasis on entrepreneurship, individualism, and social rights, opposition to police brutality and corrupt government. Many rappers are pro-gun and anti-tax. The rappers KRS-One and Big Boi have expressed libertarian views. Many rappers supported Libertarian Party candidate Gary Johnson in the 2012 election.
The Republican and Democratic Party have the same ideological platform of collectivism and have supported programs and laws that limit individual freedom. Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama operated on many of the same authoritarian, anti-freedom positions. As Frank Zappa once said, “Democrats stand for nothing except ‘I wish I was a Republican’ and the Republicans stand for raw, unbridled evil and greed and ignorance smothered in balloons and ribbons.”
“Left wing” and “Right wing” are both authoritarian positions. Fascism and communism are two sides of the same coin, authoritarianism.
Capitalism is the ONLY economic system that protects individual rights. The United States has NEVER been a capitalist country. Despite never having a true free market, the United States was most free when it approximated a free market, which was before the establishment of the Federal Reserve (a system that artificially inflates the worth of our nation’s currency) and after the abolishment of slavery (one of the most evil programs to ever exist, which was an example of the expansion of government power; during slavery, there were government programs which existed to kidnap free human beings who were in states that refused to abide by the unconstitutional slavery laws).
Anarchism doesn’t work because getting rid of government would make it easier for authoritarians to come over from another country and turn a free country into a fascist dictatorship.
Both economic crashes in the 20th and 21st centuries were the result of the regulation of capitalism.
Also, Ayn Rand was not a fan of the Republicans in her lifetime, and would hate them now:
“I am not a conservative. Today’s conservatives are worse than today’s liberals. If anyone destroys this country, it will be the conservatives — because they do not know how to preach capitalism, to explain it to the people, because they do nothing except apologize, and because they’re all altruists. They’re all based on religious altruism and, on that combination of ideas, you cannot save this country.” - Ayn Rand
Some classic rap songs which explore libertarian themes:
“Sound of Da Police” - KRS One - YouTube
“Fuck Da Police” - NWA NWA - Fuk Da Police - YouTube
“Make Love Fuck War” - Public Enemy Make Love Fuck War - Public Enemy feat. Moby - YouTube
“Bombs Over Baghdad” - OutKast - YouTube
A libertarian Facebook page: Facebook
The modern prison system is the modern form of slavery. The root of all wars is collectivism.
Tell me, Isaac, in the history of the world, why has there never been a country with a libertarian inspired form of government?
Thanks for bumping this. This video is hilarious.
For more fodder of this sort here’s the (a) libertarian dubstep guy:
So, it’s not just September anymore.
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The rappers KRS-One and Big Boi have expressed libertarian views. Many rappers supported Libertarian Party candidate Gary Johnson in the 2012 election.
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Good, yet another reason to dislike and ridicule libertarians.
You misspelled Libertarian. 
Oh wow, I missed this thread the first time around; it’s making for some fun reading. But seriously, you think KRS One and NWA were exploring libertarian themes by saying fuck the police? Seriously? So was Public Enemy exploring describing a libertarian paradise in 911 Is a Joke? Was Ice-T exploring how to achieve a libertarian paradise in Cop Killer in his hardcore punk band Body Count?