It is only by being hateful bigots that we can defeat hateful bigotry.
You strike me very strongly as someone who thinks a bigot is “Anyone with an opinion I don’t like, or, conversely, anyone I don’t like with an opinion”.
There are no bigots, just good ol’ folks with different political opinions, right? 
The existence of inflexible, absolutist, bad-faith crazy people who call everything they don’t like “hateful bigotry” shouldn’t be controversial. Especially here, where there are loads of them.
You strike me as a poster I have never fucking heard of before this post.
I wish I could say the same.
And the existence of actual hateful bigots shouldn’t be controversial, especially now when they are running the country.
Given that Trump was elected I’m pretty sure you could walk outside, point at some random stranger and announce “that person is a bigot” with something approaching a 50/50 chance of guessing right.
Does that include the 21% of black men who voted for Trump, the 46% of Hispanic men who voted for Trump and the 13% of LGBTQ individuals who voted for Trump? If so, who are they bigoted against, specifically?
Are you suggesting that Black men, Hispanic men and LGBTQ individuals can’t be bigots?
You can’t imagine a racist lesbian or a homophobic Black or Hispanic man?
Not at all. But if Trump is bigoted against group X, and you’re in group X, then I think it stands to reason that your vote for Trump wasn’t motivated by bigotry.
No.
You then convince yourself that he isn’t talking about you. He’s – of course – talking about ‘all the others.’
ETA:
“A demagogue or rabble-rouser, is a political leader in a democracy who gains popularity by arousing the common people against elites, especially through oratory that whips up the passions of crowds, appealing to emotion by scapegoating out-groups, exaggerating dangers to stoke fears, lying for emotional effect, or other rhetoric that tends to drown out reasoned deliberation and encourage fanatical popularity.”
"Demagogues overturn established norms of political conduct, or promise or threaten to do so. Historian Reinhard Luthin defined demagogue as “a politician skilled in oratory, flattery and invective; evasive in discussing vital issues; promising everything to everybody; appealing to the passions rather than the reason of the public; and arousing racial, religious, and class prejudices—a man whose lust for power without recourse to principle leads him to seek to become a master of the masses. He has for centuries practiced his profession of ‘man of the people’. He is a product of a political tradition nearly as old as western civilization itself.” [Wikipedia]
This is an important concept to always keep in mind as Trump and his followers are considered.
“it is like saying there is no such thing as sexism because we all have a close friend or family member who is a woman”
I’m in a family of immigrants of the ethnic group targeted by anti-immigrant bigots. Most of my family are Trump supporters. They think that there is some secret pact between Asians and Whites and that they will really only go after Blacks and some Hispanics (not the lighter skinned ones, and not the Cubans). And certainly not the good Christian Asians. Only the Muslim, Hindu and godless ones.
Yes they are in it for the bigotry.
But what if your vote was motivated by something else entirely? What if, for example, it was motivated by the fact that inflation was making it hard to put food on the table and you didn’t trust Biden to fix it?
@GIGObuster - But my point is, what if you are the black friend? 21% of black men voted for Trump. That’s well over a million people.
Then we’re back where we started: a great many Trump supporters voted for Trump either because of or in spite of who he is [ETA: I’m erring to the conservative in my phrasing. Realistically, it’s more of a tautology that points to all Trump supporters with any familiarity with his rhetoric and/or his history].
And, by definition, that includes his abject, profound demagoguery and hate speech.
I agree. I’ve always thought it common sense that most Trump voters fall into the latter camp. Therefore, whether their votes are bigoted depends on their specific circumstances. The madmonks and Der Trihs’ of the world would say “Ah, they’re all bigots. Fuck the lot of ‘em!”, but that’s stupid, shortsighted and quite often wrong.
I don’t happen to think that the concept of “If you sit at the dining room table with nine Nazis, what do you have? Ten Nazis” is irrational or wrong.
I don’t go as far as the ‘edge case’ Dopers do, in my phrasing, but neither do I think they’re summarily wrong in their thinking.
[Edited to clean up clunky phrasing]
I’m a minority too, and I just lost my job thanks to Trump’s asinine cuts, maybe I will get a job in the police department support area. But that does not mean I support the bad things a good number of them do.
As I noticed too before, bigotry and racism are a type of ignorance, It is clear to me that many Hispanics and other minorities that voted for Trump were, if not bigoted, a bit ignorant about what Trump had in store for them.
How Trump’s erasure of environmental data is endangering communities of color
So many are sorry for voting for him nowadays. And now, you are also ignoring the hubris the Republicans are counting with nowadays.
Yes, wrong, but also wrong coming from many Republicans: Assuming that many of those minorities that voted for Trump are not finding the error of their ways.