Unfortunately, the MST3K movie was not Best Brains’ best effort, and as I understand it, Mike and Company found the whole experience disappointing. They didn’t feel that their very Midwestern ethos fit into Hollywood culture. They made a few skits spoofing what they were going through on the regular show. I think their uneasiness affected their performance.
But anyway, the riffing of This Island Earth had its moments. I particularly liked “…Normal View…NORMAL VIEW…NORMALLLL VIEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWW…”
If people were bitching about riffing on a sci-fi classic, they need to get over themselves.
I remember falling in love with both Rory and Lorelai, in succession. At first it was Rory who appealed to me, but then, as I got older, it was entirely Lorelai, and I couldn’t see what I saw in Rory. I’ve often joked that this is when I knew I had “grown up.”
I dunno, dude. A lot of your criticisms seem to boil down to “it’s a tv show.” The dialogue is stylized and better than the average schmoe, but you see the same on every piece of writing in history, unless you think the typical teen with the hots for a guy sounds like Juliet.
People’s clothes provide a shorthand to their character, so Richard wears a suit to prove he’s stuffy, Kevin James wore his UPS knockoff uniform all the time, Cliff wore his postal uniform to a bar, etc.
There’s a lot to dislike about GG (as you’ll learn, especially post-Chilton), but “it’s too tv-like” is a bit broad.
Lauren is now 53, I am 58. Lauren is not a perfect 10 beauty, but seems like the kind of actress who, if you saw her sitting at a bar, you might feel like you had a shot. I would not be approaching Scarlett Johannson. Now I have always preferrred a voluptuous woman to a Long Tall Sally, but just now looking her up in 2020, she has filled out a bit.
She is now number 2, behind Marissa Tomei, on my list of Actresses Over 40 I’d Like to Pork.
I am sorry if my language was too crude. Should I have said this - I have always preferred older women (I married one), even in my teens and twenties. When I first moved to NYC, a guy I was working with, he was about 25, said that the sight of a 40 year old woman in a business suit was far more attractive than an 18 year old in a bikini. I felt that way then, I feel that way now. I said I had “fallen in love with Lauren Graham”, Big T “fell in love” with her and the actress who played Rory. What does that mean, nothing really in the real world, but in the context of watching a TV show it means we would like to have sex with them.
In the real world, I would never talk about “porking” a woman. Especially in these modern times, with Me Too, which I fully support, maybe shit like that just isn’t funny anymore.
So it could be either the writer who doesn’t write suitably natural dialogue, or the actor who doesn’t manage to say the lines sufficiently natural. I vaguely remember that the actors in Gilmore Girls did indeed have a tendency to rattle of their lines. The snippets of dialogue cited above seemed fine to me.
Consider yourself lucky you never had that opportunity.
Lauren Graham was the guest speaker at one of my kids high school graduation ceremonies. She is an alumnus. Hearing her speak, about herself, ad nauseam, for 20+ minutes was cringe worthy. The woman has serious personal issues and she displayed it to a capacity audience of the Daughters of the American Revolution Hall, in DC. She is a train wreck.
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It’s certainly not one of the greatest shows ever, but what is enjoyable about it is exactly the unrealistic, witty dialogue. That’s the whole point of the show. The verbal sparring among the characters is what makes it fun.
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While I tend to like good verbal sparring, I think that it’s so witty or stylized or whatever as to be absurd and unrealistic. Nobody actually talks like that, except maybe some pretentious teenagers.
I know this is going to be unpopular, but I’d think better writers could have come up with equally witty repartee without actually making it unrealistic.
The style of dialogue is 100% Amy Sherman-Palladino’s trademark. It’s not just GG, check out Bunheads and The Amazing Mrs Maisel as well. It’s like a total throwback to screwball comedy movies and Jewish Catskills comedians. Either you like it or you don’t, it’s not meant to be realistic in any way.
Too often, characters will date each other for months and years, and then they break up and … that’s it. They have a final talk (or blowout fight) that covers all the problems that they had, finalizes their moral positions on each other, and buries the hatchet between them. Now, I’m not the most experienced person in the world when it comes to long term relationships, but mine never ended that neatly. There was always at least a little bit of regret, some longing, some things left unsaid, some sad drunk texts sent back and forth in the middle of the night – all things that slowly made their way to the nothing that is “truly over.” They flickered out, rather than being totally snuffed out at once.
Gilmore Girls got that. Relationships didn’t really come to definite ends. Even after Lorelai calls off the wedding of the first major guy she dates, Max, there’s still weird chemistry between them. They even make out later, and it only ends when Max tells her that he needs to get away from her. When Jess and Rory split, the angsty little poetry nerd doesn’t even break up with her properly. He just hops on a bus to California while Rory tells him that she’s gonna move on. All Rory’s major boyfriends pop back up in the series, by the way, to either re-date or try to re-date her. The same goes for Lorelai’s.
I’m not saying that all long-terms relationships end with a smattering of miss phone calls and awkward reunions. When some end, it’s over, and you just gotta pretend that you don’t know the other person whenever you see them at Chili’s later. But I’m glad that Gilmore Girls went out of its way to show that these momentous attachments don’t have to be cut short by an actor not being offered a contract for another season.