I’m intending, actually, to write Obama’s campaign a long, encouraging, and involved letter about gun control and the AWB, and why it might be a better idea to be more nuanced about it.
Might ask for help with it in a bit. Not this week, Father’s Day is screwing up my free time.
Right. I should go out of my way to explain why I think her ideas are stupid, when she never took the time or trouble to do the same when she brought the subject up to begin with.
I said attitudes, one that you are just reinforcing BTW. I grew up on a farm around guns, I have my FAC, and have a couple older guns here, but I will be buying a new .22 and probably a shotgun in the near future. Just so you know I am not a rabid anti-gun freak. My reasons for getting these guns are simple. I live on a farm, and for the safety and care of my animals, guns are a necessary tool. I can guarantee you though, they will be stored properly. This does not include in my truck, my purse, my jacket pocket or leaning on the wall behind the door.
No, there isn’t. And I’m not getting hung up on legal definitions. The law reflects what the people believe. This was an accident and is rightly not being prosecuted. A guy who drives 120 in a residential area (almost certainly) or on a highway (substantially certainly) will face criminal penalty because you don’t “forget” to drive the speed limit. You can, however, forget to put your safety on in walking situations.
Are you KIDDING me?
It’s got nothing to do with precedent or argument. And how the hell do you know what Gramps was thinking or doing? You were not there, nor did you hear the evidence. You’re making assumptions of fact based on your own circumstances and beliefs, none of which are germane here.
“Walking around with the safety off pointing the gun at people” is so far from the few facts of the case that we DO know that I’m surprised your fingers were even able to TYPE the letters in that sequence.
Here, it is not just the law but the actual facts and common sense that are against you. It’s a formidable team. Again, like I said, it seems like no amount of logic is going to convince you. And that’s OK. Thank God you weren’t in that poor man’s potential jury pool.
What attitude about guns am I reinforcing? This whole exchange started b/c I was trying to point out that “I find American attitudes stupid” does nothing to advance dialogue.
What does that have to do with Canadians or Americans?
If you are fine with your fellow gun enthusiasts accidentally shooting people, will remind me where you live please. I want to stay out of your neighbourhood.
Say there are 2 swimming pool related deaths per day in the US every year. If in ten years the number of swimming pools in the US doubles, and there are then 4 swimming pool related deaths per day, does that make swimming pools any more dangerous? No. That is why calculating deaths per day is a meaningless statistic, used only as an appeal to emotion.
How do you figure? You haven’t asked me what my philosophy is, nor have you gone out of your way to share yours. All you’ve said is that our attitudes are “stupid”.
The original OP has titled this thread “I pit gun fetishists who have accidents due to dumbass gun safety practices”
I am merely expanding on gun safety. The cold hard facts speak for them selves. You can muddy the waters with swimming pool deaths if you want, but the stats in my post 38 speak for themselves.
If you don’t have a problem with that, well, that reflects right back to my statement regarding the “stupid American attitudes” I was referring to. IMHO of course.
No, they don’t speak to anything other than how many days of the year there are. What have you done to expand on gun safety?
Based on the above statement, you should avoid debate in the future. “If you don’t agree with me, then your attitudes are stupid” is a very, very immature attitude.
Geez, see post 104 for my philosophy, and obviously my comment regarding American attitudes is based on my experience and interaction with Americans. Go read some of the threads on guns here.
Ummm… I think I am in the Pit, not Great Debates. So Fuck you you dim-witted PITA. If you want to continue with your circular talk, go open a thread in GD and debate to your hearts content.
SInce you are doing all you can to duck the question, maybe I should ask again. Why do the actions you mentioned about yourself and your care of guns illustrate the difference b/t Canadian & American attitudes about guns?
Hint: They don’t. You just highlighted an attitude shared by a great many Americans. Those habits are no more Canadian than they are British, American, or Mexican.
What the hell? You have ducked several questions & points I have made, yet I have answered all of yours directly. You want to call my arguments circular? Grow up.
Here we go again. I responded with the word “attitudes” the first time, as I’ve already pointed out. Quite frankly, I find this level of hair splitting to be tiresome, and I can’t figure out why in the hell you insist on acting like an ass, other than the fact that you feel obligated to do so in a pit thread.
The term “gun fetisihist” is a bit slanted. But Argent Towers responded to a story of a man killing his grandson due to poor safety as “a spate of bile” That is slanted.