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[QUOTE=Sprockets]
I don’t know. What I do know - and what I’m said here repeatedly - is that when Mr. EPA went to the fires to investigate, in each case he issued a citation or a fine. That means they were in some way illegal.

Once again, for some reason I’m not getting through and I’m getting hammered here. If your neighbor reports you for doing something which is found to be illegal by the authorities, it is your fault for breaking the law and not your neighbor’s fault for noticing it and reporting it. That seems obvious to me, but apparently it doesn’t to other people.
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Bolding mine. This is what bothers me the most. I am curious as to how you know that a citation (which, by the way is not the same as a ticket – anyone in law enforcement correct if I am wrong) was issued? The last time I heard, a government employee (which the EPA guy would qualify as) discussing the legal/personal matters of one individual with another individual – particularly the one causing all the stink (and yes, Sprockets, you are the one causing stink, not the neighbors or their fires) – was illegal.

The rest of it is actually pretty much irrelevant at this juncture. You have no idea if the neighbors are burning legally or illegally. Unless you are out there spying on the neighbors, you have no idea what or how they are burning. By the way, if you are out there spying on them – that’s generally frowned upon – even in the uncivilised rural world. Gladys Kravitz had nothing on you.

I cannot express just how grateful I am that you chose to move to rural OH, as opposed rural TN – because if you were my neighbor, well. I am just grateful that you’re not. Obviously, the shock and anger over the fire department captain calling you “little lady” was justified, because you are not a lady by any definition I would use. Oh, and thanks for stopping smoking. Just curious, though, how many years did you force your carcinogenic fumes on everyone around you before you decided to become the local EPA enforcer for your rural area of OH?

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Just wait for fall. Seriously. On any given weekend in the fall, there will be at least three leaf fires going within smelling distance. Even I find that to be a little irritating on the nose sometimes. But you deal with it and move on. Shut the windows, etc.

I feel very sorry for the EPA’s office right now. “It’s you know who again!” “She whining about that same guy?” “Yep.” “I’d better go out. If I don’t she’s the type that’ll find out and write the freaking governor or something.”

I always raise a little eyebrow when people say “Oh, I’m new, I don’t know the way things work around here”. I wouldn’t dream of paying $15 to join up without sticking around and getting a good look at what I exactly I was paying for. Aside from that, if she ignores people for the kind of “rough” treatment she is getting right now, she’s gonna end up with a ton of blank content fast.

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[QUOTE=Litoris]
The last time I heard, a government employee (which the EPA guy would qualify as) discussing the legal/personal matters of one individual with another individual – particularly the one causing all the stink (and yes, Sprockets, you are the one causing stink, not the neighbors or their fires) – was illegal.
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That surprises me, I would have thought that citations would be a matter of public record.

I’m also surprised at the number of people in favor of illegally dumping/burning trash because it’s just the way things are done.

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[QUOTE=Hostile Dialect]
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Originally Posted by FarmerChick
and has zero people skills when it comes to dealing with neighbours.

**What, she’s supposed to confront her neighbors about it? ** According to some posters in this thread, she would get her house burned down that way. (That said, she was a major bitch in that IMHO thread.) …
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See, right there is the problem. Let me tell you, I was born and raised on this farm where I now currently live, but I left home as a teen and ended up living and raising my family in the Toronto area for the past 30 years. So when I moved back here in the spring of 2006 with my foreign Kia and my Ontario plates, trust me I was not remembered at all. I was treated as any other “easterner” BUT I quickly won the respect of my neighbours by simply treating them with respect and LISTENING to them. That is not to say I agreed with them on every matter. Not even close, But I do respect their opinions and values, and in return, they respect mine. As other Albertans on this board will attest, small town rural central Alberta is as big C Conservative and Big R Religious as any Southern Red State in America. And I am as Liberal and non-religious as they come.

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[QUOTE=Crotalus]
Here’s that thread. I just copied the URL from the address bar while I was in the thread, and then used the link function in the reply window to paste it into this reply. The link function is accessed by clicking on the little picture of a globe with a chain link.

Our dear sprockets certainly showed herself to be a paragon of cultural tolerance in that one.
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You’ll also note that she called someone else “nasty” not long after that post. The mind reels.

This thread only reinforces my comments in the one you linked.

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[QUOTE=Crotalus]
You came to the Pit with a complaint about something that bothers you. It hasn’t turned out as you had hoped, whatever it may have been that you were hoping. What has happened here is common in the Pit. Pittings often turn on the pitter. This is no surprise to anyone who has spent any time reading threads in this forum.
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Boy, did you ever get that right. This should be [del]carved into people’s forehe[/del]… [del]etched in sto[/del]… in a sticky.

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You know, this is a first for me, but Sprockets, I gotta say based on this thread and the other linked one that you are by all appearances a snotty, self righteous, annoying, boring little cunt. I’d suggest you pull that stick out of your ass and use it to start a nice little bonfire but I guess that’s right out.

I live firmly in city limits and therefore don’t burn downed wood and other yard detritus but I go up to a friend’s house in the boonies regularly to help with the burn pile. When you have a really horribly overgrown wood lot that hasn’t been tended in donkey’s years it gets overcrowded with weedy trees and brush and needs to be thinned out. Ironically enough, the reason it needs to be thinned is that it’s a fire danger as is. Some of that thinned wood is suitable for use as stove wood or building material such as fence posts, but most of it is the useless crap like thin twigs and needles and fronds and such–along with totally useless brush. Add to the mix the fact that there is no garbage service so to keep costs down all the paper and cardboard trash gets burned as well. Plastics and other nasties are bagged for dump disposal.

Where he lives the minimum charge for the dump is ten bucks, plus a per ton charge of about 75.00 for garbage. For straight up wood or yard debris, it’s a flat charge of about 60/ton with no transaction fee. Here’s where it gets nasty–wet wood and yard debris is HEAVY. This is the Pacific Northwest we’re talking here, and for him to haul this crap off to the dump would probably cost him better than 500 bucks per year, based on what gets burned. Maybe it just seems that bad based on how tired I am when we get done, but that shit is heavy! So basically, he’d be paying rubbish prices to dispose of rainwater. Not economically sound, and he can’t afford it–that’s time, effort and trailer rental on top of base dump costs to get rid of the never ending stream of biomass any well regulated piece of land produces constantly. Shit, just my little 5000 SF city lot produces a ridiculous amount of waste plant matter per year and I wish to hell I could just burn the crap rather than having to pay to have it taken away. I compost everything I can, but the goddamned cypress trees in the back have to be clipped every year, producing a huge pile of useless sticks (unfortunately I don’t have a fireplace or woodstove) along with really flammable cypress fronds as well. Then there’s the gigantic maple tree with the leaves, and the garden mass, and the frickin grass that gets waist high if you ignore it for two weeks and the gigantic rhododendron that has to be fought back twice a year lest it engulf half the yard, and, and… pant, pant chants mantra, does cleansing breath

So yeah, Sprockets? Allow me to be the voice of your neighbors when I say you really don’t have any sort of grasp of what your their needs or motivations might be, and also let me just say that when the fucking FIRE CHIEF tells you you’re being an ass about a FIRE RELATED MATTER perhaps it’s time to SHUT THE FUCK UP before you reveal your ignorance further. The law is quite often an ass regarding the regulation of burning of plant matter and this is probably one of them. The fact that you’re bitching because your neighbors are clearing their burn piles in the MIDDLE OF FUCKING WINTER when the FIRE DANGER IS LOWEST also shows a tenuous grasp of the realities of country living–your neighbors are smart. You, not so much.

Also, if you can’t stand the heat, stay outta the Pit, ya whiny little bitch!

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They are burned.

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[QUOTE=LadyMack]
They are burned.
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:smiley:

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Smart Aleq I like your style, once the pile is big enough can I light it?.

Lady Mack, you made me snort coffee on my keyboard.

:smiley: :smiley:

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Wait. I never got the straight of this. What is the neighbor burning? Piles of tires? Old mattresses? Tons of defective, lead-laced plastic toys from China? Barrels of benzene and toluene?

Or is it just household paper trash, wood, and sticks?

If the former, good for you to raise hell.

If the latter, maybe you should move back to the city. Essentially, if I’m burning wood on my property, and I’m doing it safely, both you and the EPA can suck my dick.

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[QUOTE=FarmerChick]
Smart Aleq I like your style, once the pile is big enough can I light it?.

Lady Mack, you made me snort coffee on my keyboard.

:smiley: :smiley:
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Hell’s yeah, girl, let’s do it! Shoot, if we’ve recently slaughtered a turkey and done a deep fry on it we can even have some really fun peanut oil fireworks, yeehaw! How the hell else do you get rid of five gallons of burnt out nasty peanut oil? Dump it down the drain into the septic tank? Besides, in January you need some accelerant for the wet shit to get it going, just sayin’…

Oh, and ditto to Lady Mack, kudos! :smiley:

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[QUOTE=Ogre]
Wait. I never got the straight of this. What is the neighbor burning? Piles of tires? Old mattresses? Tons of defective, lead-laced plastic toys from China? Barrels of benzene and toluene?

Or is it just household paper trash, wood, and sticks?

If the former, good for you to raise hell.

If the latter, maybe you should move back to the city. Essentially, if I’m burning wood on my property, and I’m doing it safely, both you and the EPA can suck my dick.
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As I recall, Canny Dan has asked for a clarification on this point repeatedly but the OP declines to comment–I suspect we’re talking straight up wood and paper trash, since I’m sure the OP would have been self righteously ALL OVER anything confirmed toxic. I think we’re pretty safe to assume “nosy twat” here…

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[QUOTE=SmartAleq]
Hell’s yeah, girl, let’s do it! Shoot, if we’ve recently slaughtered a turkey and done a deep fry on it we can even have some really fun peanut oil fireworks, yeehaw! How the hell else do you get rid of five gallons of burnt out nasty peanut oil? Dump it down the drain into the septic tank? Besides, in January you need some accelerant for the wet shit to get it going, just sayin’…

Oh, and ditto to Lady Mack, kudos! :smiley:
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I gots me the turkey iffen youse gots the deep fryer! I prefer to just sprinkle my deep fryer grease on the driveway, not only does it keep the dust down, but it reminds me of that sweet sweet meal every hot summer day! :smiley:

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So basically the OP is a busybody city slicker cunt bag who moved out to the country and now thinks it’s up to her to bitch about the way the people who have been there forever and tell them all how to live their lives so they don’t crack her idealistic countryside fantasy life.

Yeah.

Go back to the city, Sprockets.

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[QUOTE=FarmerChick]
I gots me the turkey iffen youse gots the deep fryer! I prefer to just sprinkle my deep fryer grease on the driveway, not only does it keep the dust down, but it reminds me of that sweet sweet meal every hot summer day! :smiley:
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Hey, he gots him a ASSFAULT driverway these days, yo! Up here we don’t gits too much dust, we gots the mud instead. Bad enough the damned cougars ate all the neighbor’s goats and were hanging around the school bus stop (true story! Parents were taking turns standing out with the kids armed with shotguns!) we sure as shit ain’t gonna give 'em anything FOOD FLAVORED on the ground! We gots b’ars, too… and coyotes fight with eagles to eat all the barn cats, it’s savage up there!

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[QUOTE=catsix]
So basically the OP is a busybody city slicker cunt bag who moved out to the country and now thinks it’s up to her to bitch about the way the people who have been there forever and tell them all how to live their lives so they don’t crack her idealistic countryside fantasy life.

Yeah.

Go back to the city, Sprockets.
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C’mon, everybody join in–“Greeeen Acres, it’s the place for meeeee!”

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You know, you can filter it and reuse it.

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[QUOTE=Cheesesteak]
That surprises me, I would have thought that citations would be a matter of public record.

I’m also surprised at the number of people in favor of illegally dumping/burning trash because it’s just the way things are done.
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A citation is usually not public record. For example, when a neighbor’s dog was shot in the throat – after I told said neighbor that if it came into my yard again, I would kill it, as it almost killed my dog – the Sheriff pointed out that “being as where you live, even if your wife did kill the mutt, the worst I could do is issue a citation, which is just a notice not to shoot the dog again.”** Whereas, when a houseguest – who in exchange for free room & board was supposed to take our trash to the dump – was actually dumping our trash along the roadside, got a ticket. That ticket meant he was to go to court or pay a fine. I actually worked out a deal for him that he would clean up the trash, take it to the dump and not be “responsible” for trash anymore in exchange for the ticket being dismissed. So, no – in my experience – a ticket is public record, a citation is not.

While I am not in favour of burning trash (although growing up it was how it was done, and many of my neighbors do it now – with burn permits, or at least, I assume they have burn permits because it’s really none of my business if they do or not), I would honestly be way less in favour of some cunt calling the EPA on the rare occasion that my husband decides to deal with all the paper that has accumulated from our stupid mailbox.

ETA: After reading the other linked post, I guess I just feel the way I do about this cunt because I am an ignorant Southern girl. Nevermind the fact that I could easily top her list of cities visited. By the way, in reference to the linked post, you might want to invest a little time in the English language, since it was so important to mention that your husband is English – goats and chicken are “raised,” people are “reared.” But, again, this from an ignorant Southern girl. makes note to find that bumper sticker for her car

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[QUOTE=SmartAleq]
Hey, he gots him a ASSFAULT driverway these days, yo! Up here we don’t gits too much dust, we gots the mud instead. Bad enough the damned cougars ate all the neighbor’s goats and were hanging around the school bus stop (true story! Parents were taking turns standing out with the kids armed with shotguns!) we sure as shit ain’t gonna give 'em anything FOOD FLAVORED on the ground! We gots b’ars, too… and coyotes fight with eagles to eat all the barn cats, it’s savage up there!
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dayum, youse gots assfault? youse are way too highfallootin for me. I just gots me a dirt lane. And I like food flavoring on the ground, how else am I suppose to trick them critters into getting close enough to trap them? I makes a mean possum stew. And a whole coyote? Well dagnabbit! Me and the yugguns can eat fer a gadgummed week then!