And indeed that’s some heavy duty chaffing. Ow.
It is possible to be polite and yet still really goddamn annoying.
Before this goes any further, we should hear from my good friend Rick James. Rick?
Rick: She’s a Jesus-freak, Jesus-freak. She’s Jesus-freaky…
Thanks, Rick.
Well, I’ve only seen her posts today and every single one of them makes me want to reach through the computer screen and punch her in the face.
She either needs to keep her witnessing in GD or fuck right the hell off. I really don’t want to have to read about someone elses religious bullshit in the middle of a perfectly normal (non-religious) thread.
True. Wasn’t that the whole point of Chimera’s recent pit thread and the other one talking about the Jovial Dick? I mean, some of the most assholish people I’ve ever known stood behind ‘firm’ politeese.
I have to say, her politeness smacks of smarmy passive-aggression. I have a picture of her in my mind’s of looking like The Church Lady. There’s a “Bless your heart! Jesus loves you, you godless, Hellbound sinner!” tone to everything she says, but she says it covered in honey so that people will think she’s nice. She might be saying really obnoxious shit, but she says it so purty that people will say, “But she’s been nothing but polite, how dare you criticize her, you ass!”
Also, what alice said. Jesse Leigh likes to divert conversations onto her topic of choice, which is Jesus/the Bible. When this is pointed out, she gets all faux-hurt and acts like everyone (read: Godless heathens) are just trying to silence her point of view. It’s annoying as fuck.
I wonder if I could get my dog to shit on her lawn…
It seems to mean that if you hate yourself, Jesus is giving you the OK to be a total dick to other people. Cool.
Jesus is my Buckeye.
Wait, huh? She posts this as her first post in that thread:
She notes that her parents did not love her. So you’re saying that she’s being insensitive to herself? :dubious:
Huh. I really thought she was being sincere. Guess I got wooshed. I even welcomed her to the boards.
You totally missed my point. She may feel that she loves herself despite her lack of parental love, and if she only spoke for herself, no problem. However, she said that EVERYONE loves themselves, because the Bible says so. Not, the Bible directs us to do so, so it would be good if we all did. No-- the Bible takes it as a given, and she herself has never met someone who didn’t love him or herself. Others in that thread said that they or people they know have experienced poor self-esteem and self-loathing as a result of their parents’ actions, and she was discounting their feelings and experiences, citing the Bible as a basis for telling them how they felt. She was also dismissing the idea that some parents don’t love their children because they did not first love themselves, and therefore are incapable of loving their children. That seems like a perfectly reasonable explanation for why people are unable to love their kids, but not to Jesse, because the Bible says everyone loves themselves. When she was called on this as not being correct, she went on to say that 2.1 billion Christians think it’s so, but OK, if you don’t want to hear my point of view, FINE!!!
Evidently since I’m still not seeing it.
No, she didn’t. She wrote:
First she noted that she’s not arguing the point, so she can’t be using the Bible to back up her claim since she’s not making a claim.
Second, she noted that she didn’t know the expression of the other person’s faith which leaves open the possibility that other people have different belief systems and don’t necessarily believe as she does.
Third, (I’m leaving this point blank in defiance.) 
Fourth, she said it’s just a point to ponder. She didn’t say that everyone should believe it as well.
From my own perspective, since I don’t know hers, I think you misunderstood her point. I personally believe that everyone loves themselves is true because at the very base level, they have a preservation instinct. And while people might not like themselves much and try to hurt themselves, this primal instinct can be deemed a type of love as mentioned in the Bible.
Do I like people spitting out Bible verses in posts? Not so much.
But I also think there are ways to combat the lack of logic that are better than just making blanket statements.
A better response to her “why d’you suppose” question might be to note that the Bible might say that because it may be written by people who felt that way at one time. . or whatever it is you suppose.
Again, I disagree with your characterization of her reply. Her post is here:
Soul Brother Number Two accused her of witnessing. She disagreed saying that she was just giving her opinion based on her worldview. She was just noting that her view was not less valid than his and noted that others believed as she did, although perhaps not a lot of people here at the SDMB believe as she does.
Soul Brother Number Two went on to agree with her later, evidencing that she did have a point.
She didn’t use the power of the numbers to prove her point, and she didn’t walk away in a huff as you suggest.
Exactly. I didn’t say that I agreed with her, or that she had a good argument, or anything. I just disagreed that she was witnessing (a fact that the original accuser in the thread later felt as well, as Heffalump said) and that saying so and opening a pit thread is rather rude.
Yes, she did. “Biblically, it’s a given that all people love themselves” means just that. In a previous post she says “I don’t believe I’ve met a person who doesn’t love themself. They may not like themself, have no self-confidence, and/or have a host of other ‘self’ issues, but ultimately all humans love themselves.” Not, “I believe all humans have a survival instinct” or “I think, deep down, everyone has some positive feeling in there.” No, nothing of that level of subtlety was in evidence.
Saying you’re not making a claim or not arguing the point doesn’t negate the fact that she IS making a claim and she IS arguing a point. She’s just doing it passive-aggressively.
That’s her backpedal after she stated her opinion as fact and was called on it.
Lick my hairy nutsack you crazy ass bitch.
What-the-fuck-ever. She’s using the Bible verse as refutation of the idea that there are people who don’t love themselves, and then saying, “If I’m wrong, then why did Jesus say this? Hmmm? Think about it!” That’s arguing the point.
Wow, in defense of her bullshit, you are really putting your own little spin on this, aren’t you? She didn’t say that at all; that’s your interpretation/justification for her comments. And I think you are wrong-- there are people who hate themselves enough to commit suicide, and to undermine their own self-interest and happiness at every turn. You disagree, fine, but dragging Jesus and the Bible into this isn’t going to bolster your argument any.
Some people in that thread “supposed” that she was disregarding the experiences of others based on what she read in the Bible, and that she was reading the Bible inaccurately. I don’t see how that’s a blanket statement, it’s a direct refutation of her blanket statement.
Shocking!
Which she was, and which she has done before.
Being a Christian does not give you the right to dismiss or invalidate what other people claim are their own genuine feelings. Their experiences are not subject to refutation by her opinion, nor is her worldview relevant to how they feel. She can hold whatever opinion she wants, but telling people they are wrong about their feelings because her belief and her Bible trump that is condescending and rude.
I don’t think his agreement with her means that she’s right. It means he’s a nice guy who felt bad for flaming The Church Lady. I don’t think she deserved that apology.
I didn’t say she “walked away in a huff.” I feel I accurately characterized her “2.1 billion Christians post.” I’m not surprised you don’t agree with me, and I don’t much care either.
She’s witnessing because she says it in every fucking post.
Wow, I agree with Rubystreak. Some days wonders never cease.
Jesse is obnoxious. She has that same feel that the passive aggressive old lady from like Seattle or thereabouts. What the hell was that bitch’s name? Came around stirred the pot, I think **What Exit **pitted her for being a sanctimonious bitch. She disappeared soon after. Maybe she found God and came back to enlighten us.
I could care less what her religion is, it’s just another vehicle for her craziness.
Hey, it’s a Christmas miracle!
Quiddity Glomfuster?
Word~
Can’t say I blame them.