Yes, and? Still, never the less, there is a LEGAL definition of who is a Amerind here in the USA. You can be 100% Hekawi (genetically) and if they dont recognize you, you are not a Hekawi.
That’s all I have to do to commit genocide? Sweet. I thought it’d be all hard and require weapons and lots of people and time and stuff.
My great grandpa was born in the Indian Capitol of the Nation. So that makes me 1/8 Nadarko and I even speak the language of the time, English. I even visited my homeland a few years back and bought a Garth Brooks shirt while I was there.
I love being Native American. 
Let’s say Europe. There are blond blue-eyed Native Americans. That is generally because they have some European ancestors. Your definition of a Native American excluded those people because they wouldn’t look right to you. Why are they not Native Americans if their other ancestors are Native American?
Because he’s racist against us white Native Americans.
What boat did you just step off?
Or what kind of truck hit you?
Or he could be Hungarian and/or Slovak. My grandfather was and neither he nor any of his brothers ever went bald.
Not Apache. Cherokee. It’s ALWAYS a Cherokee princess.
And I’m asking who on earth you are to determine – based on how someone ***looks ***-- that they are or are not Native Americans? Eye, skin, and hair colour don’t follow a straight Punnet square, so the genetics we learned in 8th grade don’t apply here.
So what you’re saying is that my friend and her sister I spoke of in my previous post can call themselves NA because they look the part. Their blond brother should have been excluded from all tribal activities, since he’s so obviously just a wannabe. Then, since my friend’s oldest and youngest daughters look NA, they can stay tribal members, but their blonde sister, who is more NA than the youngest daughter, should be excluded along with her uncle. Am I interpreting this correctly? If so, it’s actually incredibly offensive and racist. Instead of promoting the preservation of cultural identity that you seem to want, your view would shatter it, ripping communities and families apart.
Do you have this kind of certainty with all racial groups?
There are all kinds of racially ambiguous people out there who have legitimate claims to their heritage. It’s fine for you to view these people with suspicion, I suppose. But just be aware that if you give the wrong person a hard time about it, you might get a severe tongue-lashing or worse. And they would be justified in doing so, because it isn’t any of your business why a person self-identifies the way they do.
Maybe it’s a regional thing or something, because I’ve never encountered a “pretendarian”. I’ve met only one person in my life who has benefited from their distant ancestry. Like, I was in a college orientation program for minority students ages ago, and my roommate was a white girl who’s great-grandsomebody came from Spain–thus making her Hispanic. However, she was totally upfront about it, and it is actually not clear to me whether participation in the program was exclusive to minorities anyway (there were some other white-looking folks there). I have met white people who have mentioned having distant Native American ancestry. But that’s no different than me talking about my European great-grandfather. So maybe these pretendarians don’t do their schtick around me? Or they live out West somewhere?
To protect us little weak brown people a Great White Father is going to protect us from further genocide by Pitting his Great White Brothers?
Iron Eyes Cody would approve of this with a single distinguished tear falling down his stoic face. In HD.
Wait, so, if I’m 100% white, but the KKK doesn’t recognize me, does that mean I’m not white? Is this seriously the logic behind fake natives?
I see the fake natives are all coming out of the woodwork and getting angry at me because I blew the whistle on their horse malarkey. They are resorting to the type of double-talk in which they accuse me of being a racist, etc. Someone even warned me of a potential “tongue-lashing” as if I were a child to be threatened by their reprimands. I will not buckle or kneel. I stand firm.
Who are you to determine anyone’s cultural identity for them? If a tribe wants to accept someone as a part of that tribe and share their culture with them, what right do you, or any of us outside of that specific cultural group, have to say they’re wrong? If every member of every tribe had to be 100% ethnically “pure” there wouldn’t be very many people who could qualify. From practically the moment Europeans came to the new world, intermingling took place. There are tribes that welcomed both black and white people as members, fully integrating them into tribal society way back when. There are tribes that captured women and children, raising both the children and the mixed children as tribe members. Even with people who don’t have a trace of non-indigenous ancestry, the odds are you won’t find many people that are 100% Cherokee or 100% Blackfoot, or 100% anything else. Even amongst themselves, it wasn’t terribly uncommon for a woman from one nation to be captured and married into another nation. What matters here is the preservation of a cultural system, in a manner determined by members of said cultural system, not someone else’ stereotyped impression of what members of a given culture should look like.
My friend Pat is no shit one quarter indian, as in her paternal grandmother was an american indian, born and raised on a reservation and registered american indian. She is also a dainty little 5’1" china doll - alabaster pale skin, blue eyes and platinum blond hair. She also breeds true, all their kids are cute little blue eyed blonds. Her other 3 grandparents are Irish descended Americans.
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No. There is no LEGAL definition of Native America. There is a legal definition of being in a tribe, which is NOT the same thing.
I’m talking about ethnicity, not culture.
That makes no difference. Whatever your definition of ethnicity is it is a stupid one if you think you can determine it with your eyes.
What if that person is, according to tribal law or custom, a full member of a matrilineally or patrilineally based clan, as all of their direct line maternal or paternal ancestors are part of the tribe? Or a lawful “citizen” of that nation. And culturally and socially part of that community? Being a Native American is not a simple matter of blood or genes.
Really? And what happens when you see someone you believe is a Native American…who turns out not to be?
Most white-looking, non-culturally Native people I’ve met who claim Native American ancestry are from the South, especially from places that experienced the brunt of Indian Removal.
Technically speaking, Hispanic is not exclusive of white, so a person with white Spanish ancestry is not committing any fraud in claiming to be Hispanic. Indeed, I am not clear what actually legally defines a person as “Hispanic” as names are not always a clear indication, Hispanics can have virtually any racial appearance, and - unlike other groups - vital records like birth certificates often do not list “Hispanic” as an option. Basically, you are Hispanic if you say you are.