I just want to be clear, I agree with this statement. It is always important to dress appropriately to the situation, which in my (aspired to at this moment) field means conservative good taste and fairly conservative grooming standards. I’m not going to show up in court with unshaven legs, my hair teased out and dyed green OR a hot pink miniskirt suit. The latter having a skirt does not make it at all appropriate.
However, in this thread where the OP is on about women in pants, your “ass forward” comment was not in conservative good taste and aligned you with the OP’s opinions on women’s clothing. T It is a comment that could be funny in another context, but you are crazy if you think people are “too sensitive” taking it wrong in this context. he OP, after all, holds such opinions sincerely and not as a form of humorous hyperbole, so the difference between your and his opinions is not readily apparent when you say such things.
Jodi you’d be amazed. A friend of mine worked for an employment discrimination firm where they had a well-performing plaintiff who was fired after being told “I like my secretaries to have bigger tits.” You’d think people would at least be subtle, maybe throw around some plausible deniability. It’s a pleasure to make assholes like that pay. I wouldn’t feel any different, by the way, about a female supervisor who told a subordinate he needed a bigger cock as a condition of his employment. A)Giant asshole B)Cha-ching!
This is basically me as well, except for the parts about being a size 6 and the pasty white legs. And I’m amazed to think that my professionalism or dedication might be questioned because some man I work with might think I’m not sufficiently attractive, or in his opinion I don’t put enough effort in my appearance. Frankly, it’s more than a liitte demoralizing to find there are men under the age of 65 who still think like this.
I agree that a few posters here, OP especially, are confounding “attractive” with “professional”. “Professional” is about being clean, well-groomed, and wearing clothing that fits well, is the appropriate formality for your workplace*, and isn’t splashed with offensive logos.
“Attractive” is dressing to show off your body, assuming that your body is one that the observer is attracted to. It also includes symmetry of features and other physical aspects.
These two categories can have total overlap, some overlap, or no overlap. I’ve seen plenty of people dressed professionally that I don’t consider attractive at all
*There was a time when suits with skirts were considered more formal than skirts with pants. Not true any more.
I do not want you to be wearing pants. I do not want you to be wearing panty hose. You can wear stockings, You can wear panties. You must wear skirts or dresses. I do not want my sexual access to your body to be impeded by anything more than a half-assed tug at your clothes. You may laugh, but what i am describing is what makes the difference between sexy and not --even if you are a fatty!
I dunno, some girls can fill out a pair of jeans in an incredibly sexy way. It’s not like it’s all that hard to get off a pair of pants if I need access to her delicates.
I am SO fucking tired of people joining SDMB for the express purpose of resurrecting an utterly meaningless zombie thread.
I haven’t been here that long, either (only about 13 mos.), so I’m something of a newbie, too. But for Chrissake! I didn’t join just so I could add my oh-so-clever $0.02 to a goddamn dumb conversation that has been dead for two fucking years.
Yo, victorvodka, you best be wearing a kilt with nothing under it next time we cross paths. Free access goes both ways in the USA. Be careful what you wish for.
Oh, I think that victorvodka is just letting us know, in his own way, that he has poor social skills and absolutely no respect for women at all. It saves time. We now know that he’s an asshole immediately, instead him demonstrating it over several posts.
I always like it when guys, usually greasy basement troll types, come out with ‘rules’ for the ‘ladies’ - “hey, ladies, if you want to get with me, here’s what you should do to make yourself suitably attractive”. As if anyone, in the history of the universe, has ever had even the slightest desire to have sex with them. It reminds me of this guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiapfYiNlLk.
Incidentally, there is a fairly high correlation between these types of guys and the type of guy who uses the word ‘fatty’ in pretty much any context. It’s like a little textual warning sign.
A. I have no particular obligation to look good for your pleasure. A man has to look professional, but has no particular need to look alluring/attractive/whatever. You can be lumpy and balding but you are still “professional” if you manage to put on a suit, shirt and tie that follow some basic color rules and don’t actively fit poorly. Women should have that same freedom. Work shouldn’t have to be a fashion show for one gender.
B. You live in CALIFORNIA. I used to live there too, and I didn’t “get” a lot of things. Now I live in DC, and you spend weeks when it is 20 degrees. And we don’t drive our climate controlled cars everywhere- I spend hours outside at a time. When I wear skirts with hose to work, I came home with my legs red like they’ve been burned and chilled like sides of beef.