Where the fuck do you think the adults come from?
A vat?
You are an idiot. The claim made was “you see a higher density of bratty children, by at least order of magnitude, than anyone else who’s reported such.” There are only two options–you live in a place with a wildly out of kilter number of bratty kids, or you are a crazy child-hater. Too many people have confirmed in this thread that the number of bratty kids, in general, is pretty low for your theory to be actually correct in any global sense.
Given your posting history (in which you are, typically, a crazy child-hater who blows any possible interaction with a child out of proportion), and the fact you went off on a direct beeline to crazy towne when I suggested you might be seeing confirmation bias, well, it’s an easy call to make.
Not to mention the fact that you’re either so culturally isolated or so stark raving mad you actually called me a redneck solely because I said members of my family have a few beers and watch football on Thanksgiving. Even my San Fran and LA cousins know better than that. Oddly, none of them have mentioned any plethora of insanely bratty kids out your way, despite the fact that one teaches middle school and the other two are childfree and generally dislike children. 
No, it is not, in typical North American culture. And hell, my wife is Jewish, I interact regularly with women who have a religious prohibition on touching unrelated men and you are literally the only person who’s ever said this.
You see, SANE people see a proffered hand and say “I’m sorry, I don’t shake hands.” And then 99.99% of men say “Okay.” and continue the conversation.
Are you really that dumb? This is why every time Meyer6 posts his lies I call him out, so people with a couple of brain cells to rub together might decide to think for themselves. I’ve made no such claim as you have it above, and cannot be held responsible for whoever did make that claim.
Yeah, right. Again with the hypersensitivity. Are you ever going to explain why it bothers you so much that I recognize that not all children are well mannered and decent to be around?
You might want to go back and read what you actually wrote about Thanksgivings with your family, since it wasn’t just “a few beers and football”.
Well, since I don’t live in either place, I suppose that’s not surprising. OTOH, I’ve never said that there is a “plethora of insanely bratty kids” here. On a third hand, given the fact that you go ballistic as soon as anyone dares to suggest that there are less than perfect children out there, you cousins may just be avoiding saying anything to you. Particularly the one who teaches school, since what I’ve heard from my school teacher friends would cause me to keep any kids out of public school after about the fifth grade.
It’s not my fault that half the people on this message board think you’re a useless moron, but if you want to blame it on me, go right ahead. I have never lied about you, and even if I did it wouldn’t obligate everyone else to believe what I say. Again, I have no idea what makes you think that I have these magical persuasive powers, but which is more likely - that I have just randomly decided to perform board voodoo and force other people to share my opinion, or that other people have also, independently, realized that you’re a tool?
Eh, never mind, you’ll never get the answer to that question right.
Except, you just did. You know full well that nothing close to half of the people on this board think I’m a “useless moron”. Is it that you don’t not realize that such gross exaggerations are lies? Or is it that you do it so much that you don’t know the difference? It’s the same with all the other lies you keep telling - they are all huge exaggerations of the truth to the point of falsehood.
No, but people tend to be lazy, especially if they are sensitive to a subject. Any person who is sensitive to “wrongs” against children, such as not wanting to dodge them as they run thru a restaurant, is very likely going to take what you say and allow it to color anything I say. You say I’m a “horrible child hating cow who thinks all kids should be locked away until they are 21” (because I said something like kids should be taught manners at home before they are taken to a restaurant) and people who come in much later, like Seanette believe you because they see me posting things that are not sunshine and butterflies about kids.
Well, I won’t come up with the answer that you think is right, which is what you really mean. Your ability to tolerate differing opinions is so narrow it disappears when turned sideways.
They come from parents who breed them and who either raise them properly themselves or turn them over to guardians who raise them properly. Without proper guidance children become feral animals.
Maybe on Skid Row perhaps. I had to attend etiquette classes in school. Gentlemen never extend their hands to women first. You must have lived a very sheltered life. I have encountered far too many men who do not respect a woman’s right to choose who she has physical contact with. They probably also the kind of men who father, but don’t bother to raise the bratty children that disturb others.
Men don’t have the same right to choose who they have physical contact with?
Ladies are supposed to extend their hand first if they are an over 60 matron raised in a different era. Now that women are equals, they can both offer and receive handshakes. Your training is out of date and sexist. If a woman won’t shake my hand, she won’t get a job from my firm in any sort of customer facing role - we don’t need that type of rudeness couched in false etiquette.
As for kids of Orange County - they are no more ill-behaved or coddled than any other group. I have seen no empirical data showing greater rates of delinquency among Gen Y vs Gen X or Boomers.
Eh, I’m 55 and I went to charm school for a while when I was a little girl (it wasn’t my idea at all). And I was also taught that ladies extended their hands first, IF they wanted to shake hands with a man at all, and that ladies were allowed to ignore an extended hand from a man. Notice that I said ladies.
Being the rebellious little tomboy that I was, I made up my mind then and there to go ahead and offer my hand for a handshake to almost any man upon first meeting him. I figured that this would let him know that I wanted to be treated as an equal, not as a lady. However, I reserve the right to ignore a hand from someone who gives off creepy vibes. I also reserve the right to tell anyone that I’m not comfortable with an arm draped over my shoulders or similar touching. One salesman at a gym was particularly fond of patting and rubbing my arms, and putting his arm around me. I finally had to tell him to back off, that I didn’t like that much touching from people who were relative strangers. You know, it’s one thing if a relative does it, in affection. It’s another thing if some guy is trying to charm me into buying another package of benefits. Ick!
I need to adjust my age range… 
That fits with what I learned, and also with the re-teaching that came into play with women taking on equal roles in business.
Yeah, adjust the age range down about 10 years, because my little sister (about 3-5 years later) was taught the same thing…LADIES don’t have to shake hands. She’s considerably more ladylike than I am.
There are some men who definitely give off creepy vibes. These men will sometimes hold onto a woman’s or girl’s hand with the right hand, and stroke her hand and arm with the left hand. I’ve never experienced this coming from a woman, but it’s quite possible that I’ve never met a woman who was both creepy and sexually attracted to me. I think that the reason that women are, or were, commonly allowed to refuse to shake hands is because it was harder to call out creepers when we encountered them. The creepers were always saying that they were just being friendly, or that the woman was making a big fuss over nothing, or something of that sort. Nowadays, it seems that creepy behavior is less tolerated, which is a good thing in my mind. But it was pretty common for men to touch women in an offensive manner, even in public gatherings, and then deny any wrongdoing.
Oh well, you blocked PM messages so I can’t discuss this (or your weird behavior) much further in detail with a civil discussion.
I’ll just do the same.. Meh no loss to me, plenty of other tuna in the sea..
Enjoy your weird life.