My wife indicates to me that it is Half Baked, with Dave Chappelle. Geeze…
You’re right. It was methamphetamine (not the old school crank, if that even was a methamphetamine, but the new and improved, guaranteed to fuck your life up type of speed). Evil shit! If anyone is even thinking about ever trying it. DON’T!!! My life had to get 100% totally fucked before I could get off of it.
Greathouse, I stopped a fairly well-established hash habit a few years ago, though my usage was as GaWd described, not every morning.
For me, stopping smoking was unlike my addiction to cigarettes: I didn’t get cravings, I just felt kind of fundamentally disappointed that I wasn’t stoned. This only lasted for two or three days, and then I felt completely OK again. I got some amazing dreams for several nights, though.
I didn’t find it that difficult to refuse a doobie when it was going around, and eventually I didn’t really feel the need to smoke. However, from the sounds of it, it’s going to be harder for you. I’d therefore maybe say you should absent yourself from your current situation for a week or so - take a vacation somewhere you know you won’t be able to score, and force yourself not to bring any stash. Once you get back, maybe you won’t feel like it any more. Failing that, NA sounds like a good bet.
jjim, it sounds like even the quitting of your hash habit was like mine. I never craved or even really had a withdrawal symptom, almost never had issues with turning down a hit(I think I got high maybe 3 times in the year following my initial quitting), I just didn’t get high anymore.
The worst part is that if I had to do my life over again, I’d probably abstain from the dope because it has set my life back almost as many years as I actively used.
Sam
Speaking of hammers…
Count me in the camp of those who think that occasional pot smoking isn’t necessarily a problem (aside from the fact that it’s illegal), unless you are doing it because you have to do it. And no, I don’t smoke (and never have, not even once, unless you count secondhand smoke), so I have no particular dog in this fight. That said, though, I’ll tell you something that worked for my ex.
One day, completely on his own, he simply decided that he wasn’t going to smoke pot anymore. (I’d never said a word to him about it, but he felt he was dependent on it, which he didn’t like at all.) He decided he was going to build a good, strong bonfire in the neighbors’ grill and have a little ritualistic ceremony in which he destroyed all his paraphernalia (pipe, rolling papers, the box he used to keep his stash in, etc.) First he whacked the hell out of everything with a hammer until it was in smithereens, and then, with me as witness, we sat out in the backyard and watched it all literally go up in smoke.
We broke up a few months after that, and I haven’t heard from him in a while, but last I heard from him about it, he’d managed to stay away from the stuff. I think the little ceremony was the dividing line he needed between his pot-smoking self and his non-pot-smoking self.
Now that I think about it…any chance you are unconsciously self-medicating depression?
Greathouse, I used to be a wake-and-bake guy, too. Now I am cool with just doing it at night and on weekends. If you’re not using before work but you still want to, don’t worry. It will pass. Wanting to do something and doing it are two different things. I think you’re being too hard on yourself. IMHO, if you’re setting goals and sticking to those goals, clearly you’re in control. You’re right–the other things you’ve given up were much harder than giving up pot. Give yourself some credit. You’ve got willpower. If you’ve stopped doning it before work, then you’ve taken a step in the right direction. Keep it up. It will get easier. You’ve just got to get used to it, that’s all. If, in a little while, you find yourself OK with going through your workday straight and you still want to cut it out entirely, then you will be in a much better position to do so.
I guess what I’m saying is, you’ve licked much stronger beasts than this. You’re going to be all right.
It is possible. I have never been to a therapist so I don’t know for sure. I do know that I don’t like the feeling of not being high. I pretty much wanna claw my skin off when I’m sober. Can’t stand to be in a room, by myself and sober.
Damn, maybe I do need to go see a therapist. I may be a bit more fucked up than I originally thought. :smack:
Heh heh, sorry - blame that on transatlantic drift, terminologically speaking.
Well done whatever it was you gave up, Greathouse. I hadn’t indulged in a while myself until I went to Amsterdam, where half a cake made me absolutely monged.
Sheesh, please don’t think of seeing a therapist as an admission that you’re fucked up. Especially with the amount of evidence there is these days about the biochemical nature of depression and addiction.
If you think it might give you some help or insight, then what do you have to lose?
Ummm…what message do you intend to convey? I do not think the intended message will nbe the same a s the perceived message.
Nope. Not in a billion years. Addiction is addiction, and addicts know that. They’re there to help themselves, and you.
twicks, clean and sober for 18 years, 9 months, 15 days
Well, I think you’re dealing with two fundamentally different problems. Cigarettes & whatnot are addictive, i.e. it is a physical process. Giving up weed is more like giving up golf, because it is a dependence rather than an addiction.
I can understand the desire to be stoned instead of not-stoned. I’ve been thinking about asking my doc about meds that might just slow my brain down, because it is so oppressive to have it running full-tilt all day every day. My ADD meds to pretty well, but they don’t get me relief from being inside a tornado every waking moment of my life.
Since the OP sounds pretty smart, may I suggest a book? It’s not your typical kicking the habit book, because it isn’t one. It is Why Smart People Can be so Stupid, or something like that. It is a collection of articles by different authors that may be insightful to you situation. Most won’t; but, some are about willpower, urges, etc.
I wonder if there’s anything you can take up that’s mutually exclusive with being stoned. Looking for a more challenging job might be a big help. A hobby that keeps you occupied fairly intensely. They may not exclude being stoned; but they may lessen the desire by being enjoyable and engaging in their own right.
I agree with everyone else who said that no one in and NA meeting will see your addiction as any different than theirs.
My addiction is prescription drugs, but the crack addicts treat me just the same. You don’t even have to tell them what your addiction is (which is even in the readings). We only care about helping fellow addicts.
I’ll offer you this advice, KEEP BUSY. I can’t stress that enough. And do things that won’t trigger a craving. For instance, I always used in my house (and at work, but that’s beside the point), so I had to spend most evenings out either at an NA meeting, the mall, bookstore, coffeehouse, whatever. Just being at home in front of the TV was enough to trigger a craving.
I had 60 days clean once and went to visit my parents 4 hours away. The first thing I normally did when I got there in the late evening was take my pills, so the first weekend I visited them, I used. So that was a huge trigger for me and I wasn’t ready for it, obviously.
Slowly, I was able to spend an evening or two at home without wanting to use and work other formerly triggering episodes back into my life. But whenever I stop going to meetings completely and fall back into my old habits completely is when I relaspse.
Good luck to you. It’s very commendable of you to try to stop.
The intended message is ‘Pot- It’s not a good thing.’ What message do you think would be given out?
Heh, I suffer from this too. Strangely, I actually find that dope speeds my already-too-overactive thought processes up to seriously uncomfortable levels - one of the reasons I decided to quit. Now I self medicate with the SDMB (note post count) and drinking to excess at the weekend, though the coffee and the hangovers make it worse.
That sounds about right to me too, but I don’t have a cite for it.
You started smoking when you were eight, man. That’s a hard thing to let go.
And I commend you on knowing when its time to quit. I’ve been a pretty heavy pot smoker at times in my life, and I fully support legalization (and still smoke), but the hubs and I treat it more like an after dinner cocktail. (Neither of us drink, to speak of.)
But everyone’s chemistry is different, and I think Yllaria has a good point - smoking has had a much longer time to affect your neurochemistry, and it began at a still-formative age. No wonder quitting has affected you so harshly. This is not a typical just-up-and-quit-smoking-pot situation.
Say that three times in row quickly. I dare ya. I double dog dare ya!
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Well the message I’d get is “It’s me or the pot” and personally I think it is a good thing in moderation. I would be very surprised if your boyfriend didn’t feel the same way.
Wrong answer. The OP in this thread has taken a disliking to the weed and wishes to quit. This does not mean that it is bad, only that it has become bad for him. This does not mean that it is bad for your boyfriend. Unless your boyfriend has a problem with quiting and has become unsuccessful, sure, maybe mention it to him. But if he has no desire to quit, posting this thread on his walls could seriously backfire on you. You’ve been warned, but do as you want, I ain’t stopping ya.
I was just trying to make a lame joke. Sorry if I offended.