I pit students who punch their teachers

[eleanorigby]

LHOD --absolutely not. Talking to colleagues is not considered “gossip”; speaking of pt’s issues to laypeople or out in public can and will get a nurse fired.

Teaching may well have it’s own rules and customs–all I can do is speak from my own experience as a sub. I heard no child denigrated in the lounges, but I did hear plenty of venting, very similiar to what goes on in a nurse’s lounge. And plenty of support and positive things as well are heard in both places. YMMV.

furlib --no one here has advocated for this kid to get off scot free.

[Rilchiam]

@eleanorigby

LHOD --absolutely not. Talking to colleagues is not considered “gossip”; speaking of pt’s issues to laypeople or out in public can and will get a nurse fired.

I’ve seen plenty of medical-type persons talking about their patients on this board. They don’t give identifying details, is all, so their ass is covered. There are also plenty of teachers who post about their students. Do a search for “plagiarism”.

furlib --no one here has advocated for this kid to get off scot free.

Treis did.

[Diane]

@furlibusea

Sometimes, it just boggles my mind what people will argue. The idea that this kid should get a pass because “boys will be boys” or it might “hurt his reputation” is at best moronic and is likely to land this kid in the federal pen some day.

Students test the limits. It is what they do. Developmentaly it is their job. They are testing to see the boundaries and to see what the rules are. If they hit a rule and it stays firm then they know the edge and although they may skate that edge, they will not go very far over. By not dealing with this student hitting students, the AP was doing this kid an amazing disservice.

Being easy on these kids is no favor, particularly for minority kids, where the outside world is likely to be a lot harsher to them than their white counterparts. By letting the rules in school slide, then they have to believe societies rules don’t count maybe then the rules in society don’t count eventually he will run into a rule that does, and it will be quite a bit worse than three days of suspension.

The other people it hurts is the other students. School should be as safe a place as we can make it. By letting the bullys have their way with no reprecussions that AP was giving him the power to destroy every other class he is in. This kind of thing is why schools are failing.

Um, who said anything about giving this kid a pass or going easy on him?

[Left_Hand_of_Dorkness]

@eleanorigby

LHOD --absolutely not. Talking to colleagues is not considered “gossip”; speaking of pt’s issues to laypeople or out in public can and will get a nurse fired.

Teaching may well have it’s own rules and customs–all I can do is speak from my own experience as a sub. I heard no child denigrated in the lounges, but I did hear plenty of venting, very similiar to what goes on in a nurse’s lounge. And plenty of support and positive things as well are heard in both places. YMMV.

Teaching definitely does have its own rules: the Federal Educational Rights and Privacy Act heavily restricts discussion of student information. As a professor explained it to me, discussing students without giving identifying information is okay, but discussing students with colleagues outside of a professional setting can get you in real trouble.

Daniel