I congratulate the following 18 Republicans for supporting the bill:
I spit on the other 175 Republican representatives who voted against the bill, and am of the opinion that the “constitutionality” points were a bullshit smokescreen.
I congratulate the 5 republican senators that voted for the bill: Susan Collins (ME), Dick Lugar (IN), Lisa Murkowski (AK), Olympia Snowe (ME), and George Voinovich (OH). I spit on the rest of the Republican senators.
As you can see, the Republican politicians who support gay issues are in the very slim minority. Still, they do exist, and I salute them.
If this issue required you to recall details of TV ads from the Goldwater-Johnson campaign, I would respect your youth.
But holy freaking crap: how can anyone follow national politics for the last few years and not be aware of the sharp right/left dialectic on gay rights???
This thread is historic for me: it’s the first argument I’ve ever had with a conservative who is claiming that his bunch have (to paraphrase) “never REALLY had anything against” gays, whom y’all recently referred to as ‘fags’ or ‘queers’. It’s true: children really are the future!
I had similar arguments with conservative friends decades ago, except the issue was the rights of black people. (Whom y’all had recently referred to as… eh, look it up).
It’s a sign that things are changing, when you people are sufficiently ashamed of your prejudices that you try to rewrite history.
I wonder now how long before the right claim to be the ones who’ve had the interests of gay people at heart all along? Like they claimed about black people once affirmative action became an issue.
Who are you referring to as moderate, elected from the Republican party to a federal level in 2010? Are you sure you’re not just using “moderate” as another term for “agrees with you?”
You’re right. Now if only one of the nine alleged “leaders” on stage had made some comment about it. I could say I wonder why they didn’t, but I know why. That is their base. Those are the people they are auditioning for.
Those are the ones to whom they are trying to say “I am one of you”.
And either they are, or they’re gutless. And if they’re gutless they may as well be one of them.
Try David Brooks, of the Wall Street Journal. He’s the kind of conservative liberals like me hate: intelligent, measured, reflective - the sort you have to debate, rather than simply mock. Bastard.
Still making up a percentage and then offering as debatable. It is not. I heard the booing on the TV. I am sure it was louder a the venue.
This was all repubs in that audience. the Repubs are very careful about preventing Dems from going near them in public.
The audience is a reflection of the Republican party as a whole. But I would suggest the ones able to get into that show were serious party workers and followers. The real Republican party would have even more of those haters in the mix. The home of haters is the Republican Party. The home of anti gays is the same. It also houses the anti blacks.
I would posit that the audience at the debates is a higher class group than the typical Repub. They are a select group . They don’t just let the regular righty in. I believe a true cross section of the Republican Party would have even more booing and hatred.
Let’s not go overboard here. What a hypothetical crowd might have done is also hypothetical. What the real crowd did - and what the candidates didn’t do - is bad enough.
All one needs to do is to look at the “It Gets Better Project” to see the massive outpouring of elected Republican support. In fact, I encourage everyone reading these words right now to count just how many Republican leaders urge LGBT youth to not kill themselves because the bullying they’re encountering is unjustified.
The number is truly staggering, remarkable enough to bring a tear to your eye.
What? Staggering? Staggering in it’s absence maybe. Name 2 nationally elected Republicans to have made videos.
The only Republican I’m aware of is Fred Karger, who has never held any elected office.
And as of last November there were no Republicans who had made such a video. Meanwhile Obama, Biden, Hillary Clinton, and Pelosi all had done so. (cite)