Kozmik has been a member since 2004. If he’d just showed up with this crap recently, I wouldn’t be bothering.
My condolences. Change “doors” to “coffin.”
I disagree. The world changed between December 7, 1941 and September 11, 2001. Before, only governments could be behind events like Pearl Harbor. Now, governments are not needed to explain events like 9/11.
I could name hundreds of major world-altering events before the attack on Pearl Harbor that governments weren’t behind. Lets start with two:
Storming of the Bastille which was the last of several precursors to the French Revolution. Just a hint: Third Estate means commoners.
and:
I honestly don’t think the Illuminati or New World Order or Flying Spaghetti Monster had anything to do with them.
I suspect that Baudrillard, if provided a link to this thread, would add extra deadbolts to his doors.
Having had the misfortune of reading a bit of Baudrillard, I can report that his “philosophy” is as confusing and nonsensical as Kozmik’s. He’s basically an unintentional parody of po-mo French philosophy, a genre that is already close to self-parody. At least Kozmik’s posts are short and the illogic is clear.
Why does the Illuminati follow one person,
If they followed two, they’d rip their pants.
and why do world leaders follow the Illuminati?
It seems pretty cool to be “in on it.”
Having had the misfortune of reading a bit of Baudrillard, I can report that his “philosophy” is as confusing and nonsensical as Kozmik’s. He’s basically an unintentional parody of po-mo French philosophy, a genre that is already close to self-parody. At least Kozmik’s posts are short and the illogic is clear.
Is parodying a self-parody ironic or just stupid? It can be hard to tell sometimes.
Kozmik, good buddy, you have a fellow soldier fighting the good fight over here by the name of reef shark. Why don’t you go join him and see if between the two of you, you can sort this whole Illuminati/Jesus/evolution/9-11/Pearl Harbor/high fructose corn syrup kerfuffle out for us, hmm?
Having had the misfortune of reading a bit of Baudrillard, I can report that his “philosophy” is as confusing and nonsensical as Kozmik’s.
I have too, actually, and he’s not any less fuzzy in the original French.
Why does the Illuminati follow one person, and why do world leaders follow the Illuminati?
This is what I don’t get. Saying the Illuminati “control” everyone is like saying God “created” the world. It’s a nice simple statement that seems to explain everything, until you pry into it deeply and realize that it just raises further questions.
We say Barack Obama controls the executive branch because his powers are laid out in the constitution that everyone in the executive branch agrees to follow. Why should Obama listen to anything this “Illuminati” says? How exactly do they control him? Blackmail? Mind control rays? Or are they just really really charismatic?
If the Illuminati is so secret, how do they get new members? Do they have day jobs or do they just sit around all day scheming?
It would be quite fascinating if there really was a secret organization controlling everything, but it’s not enough to just tell me that it exists, I want to know how it works.
It would be quite fascinating if there really was a secret organization controlling everything, but it’s not enough to just tell me that it exists, I want to know how it works.
But then it wouldn’t be all secret and stuff and batshit insane people wouldn’t have anything to be all batshit insane about.
Kozmik, good buddy, you have a fellow soldier fighting the good fight over here by the name of reef shark. Why don’t you go join him and see if between the two of you, you can sort this whole Illuminati/Jesus/evolution/9-11/Pearl Harbor/high fructose corn syrup kerfuffle out for us, hmm?
Hold on one fucking minute!
What’s wrong with high-fructose corn syrup?
Yeah, being high is cool.
Yeah, being high is cool.
For you and I, maybe, but it crosses the line with corn syrup carbohydrates.
This thread is getting corny.
Hold on one fucking minute!
What’s wrong with high-fructose corn syrup?
Shh! Wait a few minutes and we’ll be told, I have no doubt!
I hope so, I’m drinking a bottle of Mrs. Butterworth’s right now and it’s so thick, so rich, and still so very sweet.
I can’t believe everybody missed out on the obvious truth.
Baudrillard isn’t dead.
He stumbled onto the Truth, the Illuminati caught wind of it and made him a member. That’s how it works. Figuring out the world is a selection test for inclusion into ruling the world from the shadows. Since they look like insane nuts to everybody else, it’s safe to recruit them. And nobody cares or much notices when they conveniently “die” or “disappear”.
Wake up, sheeple!
Since Kozmik has also found the Truth, I imagine it’s only a matter of time before the Illuminati come knocking, if it hasn’t already.
I have evidence that there are 192 governments in the world. It was mentioned in The New York Times.
I have evidence that national leaders don’t really control the world. Alessan wrote that I learned that national leaders don’t really control the world.
I have evidence that Stuxnet was initiated and implemented by a small group of people acting more-or-less independently of any of the world’s 192 governments. **Alessan ** supported my views about Stuxnet (and little else).
I have evidence that none of the 192 governments of the world was behind the Sept. 11 attacks. Marely23 pointed out that it was not a country that was behind the attacks.
I have evidence that one government - Japan - was behind the Pearl Harbor attack. The Pearl Harbor attack resulted in a war that ended with the atomic bombing of cities in Japan and the signing of The Japanese Instrument of Surrender.
I don’t have evidence that the Illuminati exist. I believe that the Illuminati exist based on Stuxnet among other things. I beleive that the fact that no government of the world was behind the Sept. 11 attacks, unlike the Peal Harbor attack, is a significant and dangerous development in international relations, indeed, in world history. I mentioned Jean Baudrillard because he wrote an interesting analysis on the Sept. 11 attacks which I will re-read. My theory of international relations asserts that states are perceived to be the main power players in international politics. My theory of international relations is based on the realist theory of international relations which asserts that states are the main power players in international politics. I posit that the Illuminati control the 192 governments of the world and that someone controls the Illuminati. I argue, without evidence, that the Illuminati has more influence over China and India than Barack Obama. More influence over Joseph Kony being captured and killed than this YouTube video. More influence over Syria than WikiLeaks. More influence over Israel than all the Jews, Muslims and Christians combined. More influence over every single person on earth than anyone, except someone who controls the Illuminati.
I hope that someone on the SDMB can provide evidence for the existence of the Illuminati (or, at the very least, explaining their theory of politics that involves the 192 governments of the world and not necessarily involving the Illuminati).
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You’re wrong about Stuxnet. The USA and Israeli governments created it, as documented by Sanger then confirmed by the press when following up after release of his book. In particular, it was the NSA on behalf of the USA which is anything but a “small group of people acting more-or-less independently of any of the world’s 192 governments.” It’s a multi-billion dollar government agency (exact budget and staffing unknown/classified) run by an Army General who also runs the United States Cyber Command. Both are under the office of the Secretary of Defense.
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If the Illumanti control the USA, Israel, and Iran, how does Stuxnet even make sense?
You just gotta believe!
I have evidence that there are 192 governments in the world. It was mentioned in The New York Times.
Unfortunately the New York Times is part of the conspiracy to suppress the truth about the Illuminati/New World Order conspiracy. From a Times review of a movie on the subject:
*“Few things are as tiresome as listening to people rant about their conspiracy theories. While there are, no doubt, tantalizing speculations to be made about the “inside job” that demolished the World Trade Center and the nefarious agenda of the global elite, movies about such things do well to involve James Bond and giant explosions.”
“New World Order,” an unrelentingly tedious documentary by Luke Meyer and Andrew Neel, follows a group of considerably less glamorous truth-seekers. The most prominent of the filmmakers’ subjects, the radio host Alex Jones, who is based in Austin, Tex., rails against the powers that be — all of them — in a manner that reinforces every cliché of the conspiracy theorist loon: paranoid, megalomaniacal, delusional, sweaty. The documentary’s most action-packed scene finds Mr. Jones throwing a major hissy fit when his hotel fire alarm goes off, thereby proving, without a shadow of a doubt, that “they” are trying to suppress his revelations."*
If you needed any more evidence that the Times belongs to the Illuminati (and you could hardly need it), here is proof.
By an extreme coincidence :dubious: I bought two echinacea plants on the way home from work, to add to my echinacea plot.* When the government bans echinacea, I’ll be laughing out my nose at the rest of you.
*relax, not that kind of plot.
Wake up, sheeple!