I Pit the ID-demanding GOP vote-suppressors (Part 1)

Your reaction was obvious. I know you didn’t literally state, “I loved it,” but the tone of your discussion was clear every time we discussed it.

Can you cite that please? I don’t recall even mentioning it contemporaneously with it happening.

I’m only asking for a cite because you’re so dishonest by the way. It’s not an inherent lack of trust for you. Thanks.

Except that it doesn’t, you schmuck.

How Much of a Difference Did New Voting Restrictions Make in Yesterday’s Close Races?

"In the North Carolina Senate race, state house speaker Thom Tillis beat Senator Kay Hagen by a margin of 1.7 percent, or about 48,000 votes. … Some numbers from recent elections suggest that the magnitude of the [ID disenfranchisement] may not be far from the margin of victory. …

"In the Kansas governor’s race, Governor Sam Brownback beat back challenger Paul Davis by a margin of 2.8 percent, or less than 33,000 votes. … [A] recent study by the independent Government Accountability Office found that Kansas’s voter ID law reduced turnout by approximately 2 percent in 2012. … In short, the margin of victory in Kansas looks perilously close to the margin of disenfranchisement.

"In Virginia, Senator Mark Warner eked out a victory over challenger Ed Gillespie by only 0.6 percent of the vote, or just over 12,000 votes. … According to the Virginia Board of Elections, 198,000 “active Virginia voters” did not have acceptable ID this year. … That far exceeds the margin of victory here.

"The Florida governor’s race was decided by only a 1.2 percent margin, with Governor Rick Scott narrowly beating former Governor Charlie Crist by just under 72,000 votes. … [A] decision by Scott and his clemency board … make it virtually impossible for the more than 1.3 million Floridians who were formerly convicted of crimes but have done their time and paid their debt to society to have their voting rights restored. … This is part of a pattern this year of candidates benefiting from voting restrictions they helped to pass.

“It is little solace to the more than 600,000 registered voters in Texas who could not vote this year because they lack IDs the state will accept that the governor’s race was decided by more than 600,000 votes. For one thing, there are far more races — from state legislator to justice of the peace — that affect voters’ day-to-day lives and that could have been impacted by those lost votes. But more importantly, those citizens — a number of whom were long-time voters who were turned away from the polls this year — were denied their basic right of citizenship, their ability to hold their politicians accountable, and their ability to join their friends and family to have a say over what happens in their communities. The dignitary harm comes through loud and clear when you read their stories.”

(Emphasis mine)

There’s little question but that Republicans sailed to victory in many races on the backs of disenfranchised citizens. The sick thing is, they’re proud of having won by those methods.

Christ Jesus, Shayna, you cited and linked the Brennan Center? Don’t you realize that is a Class One Liberal Cootie exposure threat? Bricker will have to be quarantined for 21 days!

Besides, if he can just wave away the GAO report, Brennan Center data has no chance.

To save time: Ramon Cue. Neener.

If I’d felt like it, I could have removed my ID from my wallet, hid it behind my hand, feigned a show of it to the Election Judge, moonwalked across the carpet, and counted down from 15. If you think this sham of an issue concerns the amount of time required to show an ID, then you, at best, aren’t listening.

That’s being very generous to Clothahump. Personally, I think the most optimistic “at best” estimate I can make in his case is that at best his youthful experimentation with huffing paint caused limited but lasting brain damage.

I won’t weep.

That was adaher, you degenerete de-evolving pond slime.

Following the quote chain from this post, you are clearly referring to Bricker with your accusation. I think a mea culpa is owed.

Adaher lied and said Bricker disappeared from the boards for three months following the 2012 election? Gad.

Looks like an honest mistake to me - adaher is very active in the discussion and between iiandyiii’s original comment (#1306) and John DiFool’s response (#1317), adaher posts four times, Bricker only once. John DiFool should acknowledge the error, but I don’t personally see the need for apology or contrition.

It’s also fair for Bricker to acknowledge that him calling John DiFool a liar is also in error.

As an afterthought, I made the assumption that the comment was accurate as regards to adaher, i.e. that he actually did take a 3-month break from this board after the 2012 election. I remember vaguely seeing some references to such, but I have no personal knowledge of it actually occurring or to what extent.

I think it is entirely fair to expect an apology for the vitriol that **John DiFool **unloaded toward Bricker. I also think it is entirely fair that Bricker acknowledge that John DiFool is not a liar but is instead an incompetent illiterate (or a drunk, or tired, or distracted, etc) who is incapable of following a thread for 10 posts to suss out its meaning.

Did you have to research where to ask for your out of state birth certificate without having the internet at home? Then did you have to figure out what you could cut back on in order to pay the fee for that birth certificate? Then figure out a way to get to a place that sells money orders because you don’t have a checking account? Then when it comes, have to decide which bills you’re not going to pay because you have to take a day off work to go to your state agency to get that photo ID? Then figure out a way to get there without a car? Then spend hours in line to get that ID? Then figure out a way to get back home, perhaps having lost your job while you were gone? You see, compared to all that, pulling a drivers license out of your pocket is child’s play. And child’s play is all you’re capable of, you despicable moronic piece of shit.

I disagree.

Cyros has correctly identified your error.

BWAHAHAHA.

Assuming I believe you, and assuming that i don’t think you’re just desperately scrabbling amongst the ruins of 2014 Democratic hopes… what a suck-filled life you have: you are honestly convinced that so many people were shut out of voting, and no one who matters cares. There’s no groundswell to correct the issue; there’s no accusation that the offices won are illegitimate (by anyone who matters) and apart from you and your loony lefty buddies, no one cares.

I think that’s deliciously pathetic.

And, um, “bad.”

Says the guy who thinks progressive taxation is tantamount to Marxism. Does it anger you that we’re living in such a Socialist dystopia, Bricker? I don’t think you have your finger on the pulse of American opinion, notwithstanding your correct call of the 2014 mid-terms.

The truth is that lots of people are concerned about voter disenfranchisement, all the way up through our nation’s highest law enforcement official. The fact that it doesn’t make good politics to blame losses on stripping early voting or same-day registration doesn’t mean no one cares.

If you think that NC officials got rid of same-day registration for any reason other than the fact that 33,000 African-Americans used it last time, you’re the one who deeply deluded.

And I agree.

Go for a Keith’s?