Sort of. Here in the People’s Republic of Minnesota, if you have some minimal documentation, like a utility bill, and a registered voter who will vouch for you and attest, under penalty of perjury, that Joe Jones is in fact Joe Jones and, to your knowledge, a US citizen, you’re in. Works fine here, but, well, its Minnesota. People here are weird. Calm, bland, but weird.
Different conservatives have different reasons for finding voter suppression fun.
Bricker thinks that anyone who doesn’t have ID is not worthy of voting. That it was trivially easy for him to get an ID, so everyone else who doesn’t have one is lazy and should take their medicine.
Clothy, well he’s just a mad-dog who wouldn’t know a fact if it were balls-deep in his heiny.
I’m sure the gamut of conservative thought expands further than those two, but they are typical.
What does it mean then?
It means you don’t have an ID.
Who spent $0.9million to subsidize what? And if it’s on a state or federal level, you know as well as I do that’s effectively nothing.
Someone said there were “No” problems. If that was true, 4 politicians would not have been convicted of Voter Fraud
The question is, how much of a problem is there. As one article said, it is impossible to tell because the voter registration system is too flawed to track.
So any assertion that there is no problem is nothing more then kool aid decision making. There very well may be no problem, but we cannot tell if one exists or not because of the system we have.
It means the 6 fingered man has a bogus ID.
“Count Rougen, stop, you don’t need ID. We all recognize you by your regal bearing… (glances at glove).”
You may refer to me by my given name. Wesley. Otherwise, you can call me the Dread Pirate Roberts, or sir.
You’re lying.
It doesn’t matter. This is a nationwide fight.
From our good friends at ThinkProgress (Good folks, maybe a bit too centrist, but what the hell…)
So, how its gonna be is, if Obama wins, it was voter fraud. If Obama loses, it was the overwhelming majority of real Americans turning back the huge Democrat advantage in felons and illegal aliens.
I include those in the Pitting. I also Pit “caging lists” and “True the Vote.” All American vote-suppressors and all their tactics are in the barrel here.
Hm. Even has a bit about dogs.
This is the most infuriating subject I can think of. I have no idea what kind of utopia you all live in but to say that voter fraud does not exist or isn’t a problem is ridiculous. I grew up hearing stories of Boss Frank Hague running the state from his throne in Jersey City. The election night mantra was “Hudson County has not been heard from” as he held back the results to wait to see how many corpses needed to get to the polls to sway the statewide or national elections. Things have improved slightly since. I welcome anything that cuts down on the fraud and corruption that is absolutely happening every fucking election. I mentioned it jokingly earlier but fuck it. Getting an ID is not an onerous task. The only people I run into that don’t currently have an form of ID are illegal immigrants. Even they have ID, but usually from their home country. Its nearly impossible to live in this state without a government ID. It certainly makes things difficult. To say that having to present an ID that nearly 100% of the adults already have is an insurmountable obstacle is so far out of the realm of reality it makes my head spin. Its as if some people want to vilify a simple ID check to promote their own agenda. I hope that they are just misguided and not in favor of voter fraud.
A scientific study which the W Admin tried hard to suppress not too long ago. This was the same Admin that spent two terms hunting for voter fraud, fired USAGs who wouldn’t play along, and at the end still couldn’t come up with a dozen cases nationwide.
You are not talking about “voter fraud.” You are talking about this.
Which is a hell of a lot easier than obtaining a state ID:
- Obtain a certified copy of your birth certificate. If you do not have a valid form of other ID (DL, military ID, state ID, passport), you have to have someone attest to your identity. You can do this by mail, but it can take a few weeks. It’s $26 for a copy.
- Once you have your certified copy along with some other authorized ID (marriage certificate, valid passport, carry and conceal permit…), in Hennepin County (Minneapolis) you have to go to the office in Midtown. If you live, say, in Hamel without bus service? Have fun getting there. Hours are M-F 9am-6pm. State ID’s are $18.
It took a total of three days and at least 70 miles on the car for TheKid to get a state issued ID.
I am okay with needing a picture ID to vote, if it was free and easily accessible for all.
Well, yeah. That’s the same proposition. It’s seen as some huge burden in the US, but it’s SOP in most other developed countries. So, I don’t see why it should be such a big deal here.
I don’t think this is true, but I’m willing to be educated. I’m basically talking about Western Europe here. Do countries like France, the UK or Germany keep stricter tabs on their populations? In what way?
Also, I envision this done in the US at the state level, not at the federal level. But it could be at the federal level if that made more sense.
I don’t understand the distinction you’re making between “automatically” registering all adults and requiring individuals to register.
I’m not a Republican. But considering the level of services that our government is providing these days, a single ID for when you avail yourself of those services seems to make sense.
Literacy tests were legal and had widespread support, too. That didn’t make them moral.
If it’s happening every fucking election, you surely have some kind of cite, yes?