The cite is from TruthOut, but I’ve seen it in a bunch of the lowlife sites I peruse…Lefty as all git out, so cootie advisory in effect…
Someone want to explain the necessity here? How this improves the confidence of the electorate? Sure as shit doesn’t improve the confidence of the black electorate. Do more felons and illegal aliens vote on Sunday? Gee, you think it might have something to do with this program getting out the black vote? Nah! Of course not! Its about the sacred purity of our voter rolls!
If you buy that one, I’ll introduce you to a friend from Nigeria, with a very much excellent investment opportunity…
Dude, just because there was a historical problem with voter problem in famously-corrupt Jersey, doesn’t mean that it scales up nationally. All the data (see BrainGluttons’s post) indicates there is no problem. Which means you are either an idiot or a scalawag, possibly both.
All of you who so eagerly espouse the various Republican attempts to suppress the vote are disgraces. You do not DESERVE to live in a democracy. You deserve to be in the majority in a place like Syria, where a small minority controls the country by keeping a stranglehold on the levers of power. This is the government you so eagerly seek, you don’t give a SHIT about democracy, you just want YOUR people in power, by hook or by crook, and to HELL with America. To hell with the lot of YOU!
If the problem existed, you could prove it, but you can’t.
Please tell me how you’re going to implement your solution without expanding the size and cost of government.
And hampering someone’s ability to vote when they have a legitimate right to do so certainly is an intrusion.
You appear not to to know what Big Government is. You appear to have no ethic either, but that’s no surprise. Just be straight about what you want and what the costs will be.
And understand that, as Bricker has acknowledged, the big government, costly solution will not actually solve the problem. The problem that doesn’t exist anyway.
The problem does exist: it’s that Republicans lose sometimes. More often than they like, which is more often than never. The solution is more Republican voters, and fewer Democratic voters.
The fact that this bold defense of the democratic system—the very legitimacy of our beloved republic—just ever so coincidentally happens to play right into that goal is nothing but happenstance. And it’s much more likely to succeed than the Veterans for Unborn Children Act (aka “Vinyl’s Law”), which would provide yours truly with a limitless slush fund for cocaine and hookers* and which last I checked was stalled rather hopelessly in committee.
Only *American *hookers, it must be said, and those of our allies. We’re good with Hungary, right?
This is a problem outside of voting, though. ID is becoming more and more necessary to just get by. Everyone should be able to get ID easily. You shouldn’t have to do a months-long dance with your state of birth just to get proof that you exist.
Is voting a privilege, something one must strive to accomplish? Or is it a right, that one should not be denied. And if it is aright, and not to be denied, but to equally offered to all citizens, then we ought not to place barriers in the path. And if we must place such barriers, we ought to make the effort to ensure that the effort expended to vote is also equally shared.
But we don’t see any such efforts. We don’t see outreach programs to offer assistance to those with document problems. What we see are efforts to restrict voting, as in the case cited above, which directly impacts black voters who are used to voting on the Sunday previous to election day. What we see are efforts to make voter registration more difficult, or even criminal.
(Does anyone yet have a plausible explanation for the “Sunday voting” crap? Are illegal aliens and felons more active on Sunday?)
I submit that these efforts show a distinct lack of sincerity, pious bloviations notwithstanding.
The problem does not exist and your “example” is not an actual example. Voter ID laws wouldn’t in any way prevent individuals from stuffing a ballot box with fraudulent votes as happened in this case.
IOW, this example fails because there were zero individuals who registered to vote under the names of dead people or showed up at the polls to vote using their identities. Crooked election officials put the ballots in the ballot boxes.
I just find it amusing that the people who are so vehemently defending democracy in one thread are claiming that citizens of the US are too stupid to be trusted with democracy in others.
I don’t think that Americans are stupid if they fall victim to advertising and misinformation campaigns. Look at the swiftboaters. They were lies, but they worked.
And a 10 to 1 advantage in money, garnered by one rich billionaire, isn’t something that makes society stronger.
Most states that require ID also take other forms of ID (bills and such).
If a law were created requiring ID, then people could get their pics on their registration cards.
Look. Getting your first ID and joining the rest of us may be a hassle. But if the state gives you a long time to get it done, that’s your responsibility.
Hey, I have to leave work early, pick up my kid, and swing go north of my house to vote on Election Day. It would be so much easier if I could vote by my work. But since I appreciate my right to vote, I do it even when it’s inconvenient.
The fact that apparently 10 per cent of eligible voters don’t have photo ID is a concern. They’re living on the fringe. Can’t buy Sudafed. Can’t get on an airplane. Can’t open a bank account. Can’t cash a check. Do Democrats care in non major election years about this?
But it should be said that the only time I’ve seen voter fraud is from the Secretaries of State in FL and OH.
