Yes, I want to limit campaign spending. The rest, strawman. I do think the American people are quite stupid. They disappointed me deeply in 2004. But democracy is not an intelligence test. Nor should political speech be in effect means-tested, which is what Citizens United is about. Which is NOT what this thread is about. This thread is about what complete and total assholes the people who support Republican efforts at restricting others’ right to vote are. Please make an effort to stay on track.
Well, there is probably some overlap between people who are too stupid to use criteria other than “who ran the most TV ads?” to determine who to vote for, and people who are too stupid to figure out how to get an ID so they can vote.
So maybe we can kill two birds with one stone with these laws.
Feel free to substitute “don’t have the time to” for “are too stupid to” if you wish.
Well, that’s mighty damned generous of them! They ain’t getting a thing for it, but they throw their money around in buckets. C’mon, lets be real here, propaganda works, and stupid has got very little to with it. Propaganda isn’t about how people think, its about how they feel. And how they want to feel.
If the Pubbie Pox PACs were to outspend Obama ten to one and he still won, it would be a glorious day for the Republic. Sure, re-electing Obama would be good, but the real snapper would be evidence that the American people are immune to propaganda! Hallelluja and hosanna! I’d have the giggling fits for a week!
By the way, has anyone come up with a plausible reason for prohibiting Sunday voting? Which had been available, popular amongst black voters, but is now illegal? Surely one of you guys must have some sort of rationale, however tenuous? Not even for its effect on the confidence of the electorate? Is it tough love?
Lotsa illegals there . . .
I’m going with scalawag. Makes me feel like a pirate.
Does anyone know how much of the eligible voters that don’t have ID actually vote?
I believe that with the Help America Vote Act, first-time voters are required to show I.D. Is this okay?
Look - I get that these are Republican tactics here - but I’d much rather have a national voting card than have the most vulnerable people in America subjected to things like ‘provisional ballots’ and such. Citizens here have the right to vote, but the government has the responsibility to ensure that it’s fair and accessible.
How did the liberal douches of the Dope get so good at determining the motives of other people? It’s simply amazing. Could you share your technique with me?
Also, while you’re at it, could you tell me why Luka Magnotta was googling himself in a cafe in Berlin? Did he want to get caught, or was he just stupid as shit?
Also (again), on the other side of the aisle, I suppose you believe that liberals oppose Citizens United for reasons that are pure as the driven snow? And not because they fear that “teh corporations!” will mostly support conservative causes?
It follows inexorably from giving you credit for enough intelligence not to actually *believe *the horseshit you’re spewing.
Is that being too generous to you?
How about this:
- You require some form of official voter ID.
While at the same time:
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You make Election Day a national holiday.
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You allow felons to vote.
Seems like a decent compromise to me.
Sounds like you’re already a master of it.
Heck, assuming advertising works at all, having a disparity in advertising dollars is bad even if both sides are exactly equal. It would lead to emphasizing one side over the other leading to an imbalance.
That’s assuming that advertising works. If it doesn’t, why would they do it.
Similarly, if newer, more restrictive laws will not disenfranchise more Democratic voters than Republican, why is one side so gung ho about it?
It’s because they love America just so much.
All of the election days?
President, Congress and Senate. A day off every two years isn’t too bad; besides, isn’t democracy something worth celebrating?
States will, of course, be able to legislate their own holidays for gubernatorial elections if they so please.
Also city council, primaries, state, school board, special elections, caucuses?
Many people can take off work to go to the polls (unpaid) per state law.
I think I’ve voted 4 times over the last year. Mail-in now, of course. It’s just too much of a pain otherwise. I have my election ballot sitting in front of me as I type.
I think we’ll just start with the big ones.
As I said, it was a quick search. That being said, (as the article proclaims), the voter registration system is so flawed, any sort of investigation will be very limited.
Nobody will ever be able to tell the extent of the issue because of the flawed process.
In case anyone was wondering (I’m sure they weren’t), I don’t have to copy any form of ID and send it in with my ballot. If I did, I could send a utility bill, a Student I.D. card, a Medicare card, a paycheck stub, or a host of other things.
This may be a bit off topic but would a compulsory voting law have any impact on the issue of alleged voter fraud ?