More IRS corruption:
I’m trying not to laugh my ass off at this story. I’m not having much luck.
Yes, and I pit the Dalai Lama. He’s the closest thing to Hitler that Tibet has.
Well, it’s a significant cost for a business. Not sure about the government. Email takes up a lot of space, believe it or not. Typically 1000-2000 emails represents about 1GB of data.
However, it’s not the immediate space that costs so much, it’s the backup. The more space you use, the larger or more tapes you’ll need for backup, and those things aren’t cheap. Additionally, the more data you have, the better the backup system you need in order to efficiently backup and store it all.
I’m not really sure why adaher is getting shit on over the Sarbanes-Oxley thing. His point was pretty obvious to me: that we should require the IRS to maintain that sort of information if we require private enterprise to do it. Any documents it generates are presumptively public records, after all.
It’s not necessarily a terrible policy, but it’s not a supportable legal argument. Spoliation applies to specifically foreseeable litigation. It doesn’t occur merely because someone, somewhere is bound to sue you for something someday.
He’s claiming that private enterprise is required to do it but has yet to address the origin of this requirement. It’s not in SOX.
That sounds like a training issue (i.e. "no, you don’t need to attach a dozen pieces of clip art and a cat video to every three-sentence memo).
Still not checking your own cites, huh?
And, if the agency I work for is any indication, they’re likely operating on outdated equipment because Congress won’t approve paying for replacements.
We’re finally upgrading from IE8 this week…to IE9.
We’re still using Office 2010.
We finally upgraded to Win7 a couple of years ago…from NT4.
Lovely. Whenever things get too challenging, just drop the entire discussion and run on to a new topic. Have you EVER actually offered a substantive response to any point raised by anyone?
It’s in the implementing rules.
Is there contemporaneous evidence of the hard drive crash?
If so, doesn’t this verge on crazytown conspiracy theory that they were deleting emails before a single media outlet or non-profit group asked any questions about the scrutiny being applied to groups with political names?
You’re saying each email is 500K on the average? I would very much doubt it. I would guess you’re off by an order of magnitude, if not two orders.
A rich text e-mail should be no more than 100KB - but assuming every fifth e-mail includes a PDF attachment or one of those stupid signature image blocks, I could certainly see 500KB average.
Disbanded, adaher? And then what?
Have you given this any actual thought, or just RO?
Humpy, if you’re trying to be taken seriously here, well, you still aren’t.
Yeah, it’s not the email itself, it’s the attachments that run up the size. And 1-2k/GB is a rough average. It can vary greatly from collection to collection.
It’s a good thing for adaher that when he’s managed to be a total idiot in a thread (a daily event, I know), he can count on Clothy to come along and say something equally stupid as a distraction.
Still don’t see where private enterprise in general is required to retain email, assuming “correspondence” and “communications” include email. That’s on the auditor, and only when those two conditions are met.
Feh. Both are crap, so no big whoop.
It’s a solid build, actually. If I weren’t an open source guy, I’d be on 2010.
This is actually a good thing. I mean, it’s a shame to be so long getting to Win7, but those are easily the two best operating systems that Microsoft has released*. I knew 'softies who deliberately held off their in-house upgrades until 7 came out because its predecessor was such shit.
Honestly, I’m not sure you’re missing anything by not having the newest builds, assuming the holes are appropriately patched up.
(* in the windows era, at least. I’d still be using DOS 6.22 if I could.)
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They’re talking about auditors that work for accounting firms, not IRS auditors.