It’s not just Lois Lerner’s e-mails. The Internal Revenue Service says it can’t produce e-mails from six more employees involved in the targeting of conservative groups, according to two Republicans investigating the scandal.
The IRS told Ways and Means chairman Dave Camp and subcommittee chairman Charles Boustany that computer crashes resulted in additional lost e-mails, including from Nikole Flax, the chief of staff to former IRS commissioner Steven Miller, who was fired in the wake of the targeting scandal.
I wonder if it’s the same dog that ate those emails or a different one.
I don’t just mean tax crimes, but the ability of the IRS to seize assets. They can do that on their own. Since the Constitution forbids the taking of property without due process, it is a form of prosecution, and the IRS does have its own tax courts. All of that should be moved to Justice, and all tax disputes should be decided on the basis of the government having to prove its case.
Virtually none of the facts implied in this post are true. The IRS have no more powers than the FBI or any other investigatory body with respect to seizure of property, Article III judicial oversight, and the burden of proof on the government.
Tax court hears claims brought by taxpayers concerning the IRS’s findings of tax deficiency before the taxpayer pays. Taxpayers are free to have their claims heard in Article III court after-the-fact.
Ok, at least you’re squarely in opinion-land with that post.
But I don’t know why you’d trust the IRS any less than ATF or TSA or FBI or DEA. As good Americans, we should be pretty damned skeptical of all of them–because humans.
There are real civil asset forfeiture abuses happening in law enforcement. But I don’t think anyone thinks IRS is anywhere near the worst offender. Indeed, unlike the paramilitary agencies, IRS has a lot less self-interest in abusive asset forfeiture.
No shit. Maybe if adher tried claiming that accounting firms are required to keep certain emails backed up for 7 years rather than the all-encompassing “companies are required to keep emails backed up for 7 years.”
I think it kind of stands to reason that he’d be talking about companies that do similar work. “The IRS should retain stuff for seven years because publishers have to retain manuscripts for seven years” is not a very compelling argument.
Good for you for speaking up. Not that you will get anywhere. Clowns like Joey P. and ElvisL1ves will jump on anything adaher says. I don’t have much interaction with adaher, but it’s a safe bet that he’s is smarter than both of them put together on their best days. The funny thing is, if adaher actually was a dumb as they and others like to portray, following him around and jumping on his teensiest misstatement would be akin to following around the neighborhood retarded kid and tripping him and laughing every time he falls.
Let’s do that right after we have a new Church Committee-type deal to rein in the powers of the actual CIA, FBI, NSA, etc. Matter of priorities. Otherwise, I’d have no objection.
Point is, for a long time Congress’ standard way of tackling technological problems has been to keep throwing more people at them rather than approving a budget which would cover the fixing of said problems.
Some people aim for the low-hanging fruit. Following adaher around is a very easy way to feel smart.
Why do you think I tend to follow Humpy and Psikeyhackr around? There’s a certain joy in pwning idiots. And it’s not exactly like following around the neighborhood retard… There’s nothing the retard can do about his retardation. Adaher, Clothahump, and Psikeyhackr could, at least in theory, educate themselves out of their pit of stupid. They don’t, so I don’t feel bad about beating on them.
Adaher gets a lot of flak around here. Honestly, I’m surprised he keeps coming back. I think most of the vitriol that he gets is tongue-in-cheek, though there are some low blows in there.
And to tell the truth, he has gotten much better at debate over the last 6 months. His opinions are much more thought out and cited than they used to be. However, he’s still incorrect an amusing amount of time. But he IS getting better.
There’s a certain joy in pwning idiots. And it’s not exactly like following around the neighborhood retard… There’s nothing the retard can do about his retardation. Adaher, Clothahump, and Psikeyhackr could, at least in theory, educate themselves out of their pit of stupid. They don’t, so I don’t feel bad about beating on them.