That’s nearly exactly what that Akin idiot from Missouri said. I think it’s a Fundie thing going around, so they can rape their wives without feeling guilty - after all, if she really doesn’t want it, she can just stop it from happening. I don’t have an insult strong enough to express what I think about this “belief” going around. They just better hope they never run across me in a dark alley.
The idea that “if a woman isn’t dead or nearly dead, it obviously wasn’t rape” is really, really old; it just seems to be making a comeback with people like this. Dark Age nonsense for Dark Age minds.
Just so we can keep our medieval misogyny straight: Akin said pregnant woman couldn’t get pregnant from rape. The judge seems to be saying woman couldn’t be raped without large amounts of physical damage. So somewhat different beliefs, even if they’re both equally execrable.
Also scary, according to the AP story the judge use to be a sex crimes prosecutor. You have to wonder how many rapists walked because their victims didn’t look beat up enough to suit him.
I would really like a proper explanation of what he thinks actually happens. What, the vagina seals itself like the cave of wonders? Does it grow teeth? Or does it create a force field in which all willies go limp? WHAT? How does this magic happen??
Fucking hell, and we still need to have threads on this board arguing that it should be really difficult to report rape.
I want this man to say it out loud, on television. I want to hear him say “but…but… it shrivels up to an innie belly button…right?”. And I want him to have sex ed, live on tv, with those models of women’s reproductive system, and he has to point to the magical muscles that do this. Or to the gland that secretes the concrete that seals the vagina off. Or whatever it is.
And then I want the whole world to point and laugh. Until he runs away crying.
No, he’s just say that if your muscles DON’T do this, you’ve obviously not been doing your vaginal exercises enough and are just asking to be raped, you loose pelvic floored hussy.
I don’t quite understand how he (presumably) agrees that robbery happens when a store clerk hands over the money in cash drawer. After all, that takes quite a bit more voluntary muscle action than being a rape victim does.
The clerk reaches into the register and hands over the money because he’s threatened with harm if he does not. That’s the key factor of armed robbery, in fact.
The lack of resistance happens for precisely the same reason in a rape: the credible threat of physical harm.
Sadly, I think I know what his “logic” is. You see, women are not able to voluntarily control their reproductive organs, but these organs are highly and immediately responsive to their subconscious desires. So while a woman might choose not resist under threat of harm - by not punching, kicking, screaming, etc. - her vajayjay will always resist… if that’s what she really wants. It’s basically just an elaborate version of, “She said ‘no’, but she really meant ‘yes’.”
Did I read that right? The asshole judge apologized to…the commission…for those comments.
Screw the commission, what about the victim who was further victimized by the system?
You may be right – and, indeed, there’s two different physical issues going on: the internal musculature and the response of the mucus membrane. I wonder if he meant that there was no physical chafing as is often seen with rape accomplished with a lack of internal lubrication.
If so, then he can be – if not forgiven – perhaps given slightly more latitude, since there are some women who experience lubrication during a rape and take that to mean their body has betrayed them somehow, or wonder if they somehow secretly wanted it. Of course, that’s nonsense: that’s a reaction that can be mental, but can also be purely physical, and it says nothing at all about what anyone may have wanted, secretly or otherwise. Indeed, it’s not impossible for the physical rape to generate a physical orgasm, and I know that has been the cause of some hideously awful self-doubt on the part of victims. But, again, while we tend to associate the female orgasm, especially, with mental and emotional acceptance and intimacy, it can absolutely be the result of unwanted physical contact and has absolutely zero relevance, legally (or otherwise) as to the issue of consent.
But learning he’s a former sex crimes prosecutor, I’ll take back the slight bit of latitude I was willing to extend in the paragraph above. Some women may themselves make that mistake because they were never properly educated about their own physiology; a sex crimes prosecutor cannot – or SHOULD not – be able to use that shield to explain his lack of knowledge.
I will say that if you’ve practiced criminal law for any length of time, you are well aware of the shorthand language as far as what a given set of facts is “worth” in terms of possible conviction and sentencing.
His remarks apparently arose out of some desire to justify his “worth” argument. Highly inappropriate, but I’m sorry to say, not highly unusual methodology.
I hesitate to say this about these kinds of morons, but that might be a little too harsh. It’s a mental workaround for female promiscuity and abortion. If there’s no such thing as rape and all pregnancies are the result of consensual sex, it eliminates a lot of complicated stuff that these people don’t want to think about.