What the fuck? Abuse of free speech? That is the fucking practice of free speech, to say what you damn well please whoever you piss off. That’s what separates us from countries like Egypt. OK, I understand the Embassy is in an awkward position but that statement is indefensible. How about condemning the fucking mobs tearing down US flags?
You abuse privileges, you can’t abuse fucking rights!
That is amazingly ridiculous.
It has become a strong belief in certain circles that speech that criticizes Muhammad is offensive per se and should not be protected under the 1st amendment, I thought the whole cartoon controversy of a few years ago was amazing for how many people who normally would be free speech absolutusts were against it.
Your OP is nonsense, but just to pick on a small part of its stupidity; how can you seriously include the above words in a post that takes offence with what somebody said?
The statement is offensive. Those who resort to violence because someone made fun of their religion are shitheads, plain and simple. We need to develop a way to seed clouds with pig’s blood and have it rain on demand. It would be funny as shit to see the throwback barbarians scamper like the rats they are.
I haven’t seen the film they are up in arms about. Is there a link to it?
Ok there are apparently some clips here: The Movie So Offensive That Egyptians Just Stormed the U.S. Embassy Over It
It’s all very confusing since they keep talking about a guy called Terry Jones, and I keep thinking about Monty Python, and then Life of Brian, but then i hear the actors have New York accents, and it just doesn’t add up.
There is a difference between the US government saying something, and a person.
Rights are just privileges your government has promised not to take away from you. You enjoy them at the pleasure of your leadership. “Rights” are an illusion.
Those clips are fucking awesome. It’s like a live-action Clutch Cargo movie, with murderous Muslims.
I trust this is a sardonic view of some peoples’ opinions, and not your own?
Human rights have strong philosophical underpinnings (if we are going to go there, we should travel to GD) that don’t require political agreement to exist. They may not be recognized in any given instance, but an unrecognized right still exists as a right.
Where the rights of two individuals conflict, or at least seem to, is where a government that is operating on good principles can be useful. In fact, the right to free speech cannot be considered to be infinite, it does have limitations. Offending other peoples’ religious sensibilities is not, however, one of those.
Unfortunately, many Muslims seem willing to fight to the death over this issue. Non-Muslims may have to step up with an equally firm stance about what free speech means and what it is worth to them, or risk losing the exercise of that right.
Roddy
Wrong Terry Jones, this one is Pastor Terry Jones. The same guy who got his face in a bunch of papers by burning a Koran which resulted in some reprisal attacks against our troops in Afghanistan.
I agree he has a right to do stupid inflammatory shit but that just makes him a stupid inflammatory piece of shit.
That is a joke, right?
The aggravating thing about this story is that you can guess every single one of the relevant deatils from the headline (or from the title of this thread): someone allegedly says or does something dickish about Islam, some Muslims do something batshit crazy targeting the U.S. or the West, and the U.S./Western governments apologize to Muslims without condemning the violence and insanity. It gets more and more annoying as time goes on.
EDIT: Actually if all the crazy people did was tear down a flag, that’s a significant improvement over the usual untargeted mass violence and homicide, but maybe next time they can get their own flag and stage a protest on their own property?
Sorry bro, your trust is misplaced. I’m really that embittered of humanity.
I’m not seeing how that’s embittered, and I’m not seeing a whole lot of relevance either because even if it’s just a privilege, it doesn’t follow that Rev. Dickwad abused the privilege.
Yeah, that’s much better than the embassy’s statement.
If this is the first time I’ve wondered if magellan01 is Pastor Terry Jones, all I can say is I don’t know why I didn’t think it before.
Agreed about the statement, but I’m willing to give them a pass since the wolves are literally at the gate.
I’m having a really hard time with both this and the “Pakistani Christian girl’s family fears for their lives as neighbors threaten to burn them alive” being on the front page at the same time. Really makes me think unpleasant thoughts involving genocide on a planetary scale.