I pit the substandard governmental response to the situation in New Orleans.

Since people have been speculating on the logistical problems involved in the response, I’ll quote the husband of an acquaintance of mine (I have his permission) who posted the following on another messageboard on Sept. 1:

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Responding to your question about why with technology the military cannot help more.

Quick answer: The military is made to kill people and destroy things, not to rescue them.

Long Answer:
The job of assisting people in distress belongs to the Fire Department, EMS, Police Department and othe civil authorities. In times of disaster, the military augments (assists) civilian forces in dealing with disaster. Civilian authorities are the experts. The problem here is that there is no Civilian Infrastructure to augment. There is nothing.

Already, this is the largest committment of military forces for humanitarian relief in US History. The Coast Guard has boats and ships out rescuing people, the Air Force has mobilized its search and rescue teams, the Marine Corps has forces in theater, and the Army is responding with the Corps of Engineers, water sanitation teams, and other assets.

One factor is time and distance. The military is set up to rapidly move troops around the world. To do this, they move combat (trigger pulling) forces first, and then plan to build the supply chain to support them. Thus, support units (like water purification teams) are on a longer alert to deployment cycle than the combat forces. Most support units are also Reserves or National Guard units, so they need to be called up, mobililed, equipment found and shipped, and then they can arrive in theater.

Already, military rations (Meals Ready to Eat) are fast becoming the food staple of those stranded, so there is one way they are helping.

I guess the question is, “What more do you want done?” We have not yet found a way to push back waters, we don’t know how to stop crocodiles from swimming in the swamp, and we don’t know how to stop a hurricane from destroying a city lying below sea level on the coast.

The military is also pretty well tapped out with commitments in Korea, Germany, Bosnia, Africa, Afganistan, and Iraq, all of which reduce the available manpower. Already, 1400 National Guardsmen are being sent in per day, with more on the way. National Guardsmen are you neighbors who are being yanked out of their regular jobs, and sent to help. This takes time to fully mobilize. The Louisianna National Guard is most likely devestated, with their alert rosters non functional, so help has to be authorized by the neighboring states’ governors.

Regularly, the military mobilizes soldier to fight the California wildfires, help with mudslides, and the like. Here, we have a disaster whose level is unprecidented. Rather ask, “Why was the city of New Orleans so unprepared for a Hurricane?” (Something whose presence is not exactly unknown on the Gulf Coast.

FEMA and the Army Corps of Engineers have the same trouble that most government agencies have. Very little communication. Probably, no one at FEMA thought to ask, and the CoE assummed that FEMA knew.

As far as were we prepared, no. I think it is foolish to blame anyone for the lack of response, or failure in efficiency. This is just huge. If it were an Earthquake, then the environment would at least be safe afterwards. But with the Hurricane and aftermath, you’re talking about trying to conduct rescue operations in an unsafe enviroment with limited assets. I seriously doubt that anyone ever considered this BAD of a scenario where vehicles cannot even travel through the city.

After looking things over, the biggest problem seems to be the same one involved whenever state and federal forces are involved. Who’s in charge. This is compounded by the number of federal agencies, and the presence of multiple civilian agencies (Red Cross and such.) This has been, and always will be an issue. We even had a war in 1861-1865 to determine just how much freedom states had to make their own decisions. Normally in this situation, there would be a state disaster coordinator who would request assets from FEMA or , through the State’s Adjutant General, the Military, or other federal agencies. That person would then assign those assets to where they are needed and they would be subordinate. Now, however, there is no one in charge (although from reading the earlier posts, it looks like the make a Lt. Gen. the event commander) and multiple agencies who all have their own specialties all trying to do their best.

Quite honestly, there’s not a whole lot people can do. In a year, we’ll still be going and talking about it. The important thing, in my opinion, is not to concentrate on what went wrong, as we have years to do that, but rather to concentrate on how we can make it better. Clamoring for information now only distracts from the issue at hand, which is trying to take care of people in need.

One thing to remember is that hindsite is 20/20. It is easy to blame the President or the Governor of Louisiana for failing to be fully prepared. However, how would you have felt three years ago if money had been diverted from Education to build up the levees in New Orleans which held the last time a Hurricane came through 40 years ago? Would you have supported that? Or would you have called it pork? I know I would have thought that the Louisiana senators were getting one heck of a kickback if they had spent a great deal of Federal money on improving the Levees and dikes.

Wendy’s Husband
West Point '95
CPT(ret), US Army

Dewey has impressed me. You don’t see that kind of personal integrity everyday. It almost brought me to tears. He has renewed some of my faith in humanity. Thank you, man.

I don’t think what we are seeing is the product of outright malice. I think its a mixture of incompetence, misplaced prioritization, and gross indifference to human suffering that has led to what we are seeing. But you know what? The end result is practically the same as if it had been caused by malice. At this point, to feret out the difference is splitting hairs.

Funny how Updike bows out of the thread as soon as someone else stepped in to provide him his answer. Couldn’t come up with it himself, could he?

Anyone who has paid attention to this disaster and does not reach the conclusion that something is seriously fucked up with our country needs to wake up and smell the rotting corpses sitting in front of the Superdome and swimming in the streets. I’m truly bemused by Bricker’s deligent quest to find a comparable disaster so that he put all of our angst in perspective for us. How kind of him. I just wish that he would stop looking back and start looking at the here and the now. Instead of searching for excuses, we need to figure out what went wrong and figure out what needs to be done to make sure it doesn’t happen again. That’s how progress is made.

Let’s start from the top and work our way down. We have two important questions to deal with:

  1. What decisions needed to made but were not made when they should have been?

  2. Who was responsible for making those decisions?

It comes down to “what” and “who”, quite simply. Figure out the “what” and then we can figure out the “who”.

Then we can figure out what to do with the “who”.

It happens when the criminality of a few is used as an excuse to stain the entire population and justify inaction. What we are seeing here is everyday race-based assumptions magnified 100 fold.

If we were talking about a majority white crowd, I doubt that the criminality of a few would cause the whole crowd to be characterized as violent, raping, and murderous. People would look closer and see that the crowd is composed of babies, old people, mothers, fathers, married couples, teenagers, and average blokes and blokettes just struggling to stay alive. The crowd as a whole would be viewed as innocent victims; the criminals among them would be viewed separate and apart from the rest.

But when the crowd is mostly black, a lot of people feel comfortable allowing the criminality of few to sully the reputation of the whole. They don’t see the babies, the elderly, the concerned parents, and joe schmoes; they just see “them”. “Them” who are looting, “them” who are shooting, “them” who are raping, “them” who are killing. The whole crowd gets viewed as “them”. So the babies and old folks die, because of the presumption that “them” present a threat that justifies doing nothing.

I don’t want to get on a soap box. I don’t want to preach or whine. But what I’m talking about is at the heart of what Kanye West and other “prominent blacks” have been saying. Race has figured into this thing from the first time looting was reported until the first person stepped onto an evacuation bus. Race has played a role in American’s perception of the disaster, and it will play a role in its aftermath.

We can tiptoe around it all day long, but the elephant in the living room will not be quiet for much longer. A storm is a-coming, and it ain’t another hurricane.

you with the face, can you imagine the response if the Superdome people had been predominately white and the criminal element had been all black? You’d hear everyone saying, “Get those folks out of there NOW!” Not “They’re acting like animals and that’s why we haven’t saved them yet.”

A must read on the guys Bush appointed to run FEMA, and later FEMA’s responsibilities after it was folded into the DHS:
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2005_08_28.php#006399

These are the guys Bush’s political fixers told him he’s better say were great guys who did a great job, because admitting weakness would be bad politics.

]Exactly. The presence of thugs would be used as a excuse to act faster not slower. The presence of thugs would make us more sympthetic towards the victims, not more apathetic.

Monstro, the more I think about it all, the more it makes me want to cry with rage.

The public relations blitz has begun.

I was already angry with these heartless, self-defensive motherfuckers. Now I’m furious. How dare they. How fucking dare they.

The link doesn’t work, Cervaise.

shrug

Worked fine for me. The headline is “Administration launches public-relations blitz on Katrina”

A real news story, but worthy of the Onion. Bush administration officials fan out to help in any way they can with political disaster relief amongst a devastated media in desperate need of fresh soundbytes and talking heads to get back on message.

I swear it wasn’t working five seconds ago. I think it was because of the sheer number of people clicking on it at the same time.

I swear, the more they scream “It’s not my fault!” the more I want to blame them.

So hopefully this little campaign will become a textbook case of a backfired plan, and it will spawn a revolution.

With this administration, it’s almost like the PR department of a major corporation has gone rogue and taken over the country. PR is all they know how to do, so that’s all they do. When it comes time to actually do things, like run a war or balance a budget or protect the lives and well being of your citizens, they fail.

That’s what strikes me the most. People talk about blaming Bush, blaming Branco, blaming Michael Brown, etc. But one of the most infuriating scandals is the incompetence of the lowest level workers. Did Bush order anybody to turn away five miles of help?

This WSJ article (paid subscription required) seems to provide many pieces of this puzzle.

You are absolutely right.

I’m also concerned that the ignorance and racism of a (small?) (minute?) part of White America will be seen as true for all of us. Among the people I know, hearts are breaking. I was just talking to my 85-yr-old Great Aunt, a Conservative Christian and lifelong Republican. She couldn’t sleep Wednesday night after having watched the news.

*Chertoff acknowledged the federal government was still not fully prepared for such calamities as Katrina, which left thousands feared dead, but insisted that now was a time for recovery operations not finger-pointing.

“In due course, if people want to go and chop heads off, there will be an opportunity to do it,” he said during a round of appearances on Sunday talk shows from a suburb of flooded New Orleans.*

In other words, now that we’ve more or less emptied the city and given the chance for anybody stranded to drown or starve, it’s time to get down to business and begin the operation in earnest. :rolleyes:

Don’t you worry, Mr. Secretary, your time on the chopping block is already reserved. I hope.

You are right as well. There are lots of white people who can see what I can see, who don’t sit there making up excuses because of some nebulous “them”, who are just as dismayed and upset that I am. The distressing thing is that those who don’t see what I see seem to have a disproportionate amount of power right now.

If there is a silver lining to this cloud, it’ll hopefully be that this event will serve as one gigantic wake up call. Bush loyalists will pull back the curtain and see the joke standing there. And deniers of racism will start to accept that racism wasn’t eradicated in 1968; it’s still here, just without the pointy white hats and the water hoses.

You know deep down in their heart, your average Bush supporter doesn’t give a shit about New Orleans. I doubt that your average redneck gives a shit about New York for that matter other than it was a convenient excuse to bring to the surface all of their false patriotism and Christian right wing beliefs.

But I get this feeling that half of them are sitting in their chairs, the good Christians that they are, watching what is unfolding and thinking quietly to themselves that the looters are to blame. Add in the fact that most of these people are black (New Orleans is the only major city where Blacks are the majority) and you have recipe for not giving a shit.

I was sitting in the line at the DMV when I saw this Ossie and Harriet looking mother fucker standing in line in front of me. He was applying for a California license or something. Probably from Utah. Anyhow, he is talking to a little black lady who was the security guard. When the subject of New Orleans comes up, this little honky piss ant’s only reflection was “what about those looters?” So I think that it is safe to say that most of these “law and order” types don’t care about the people dying in New Orleans just as long as they can pair blacks with looting, no one there deserves to be rescued.

When all the excuses are gone
When there is no one left to blame
When the lies have been exposed
Your hyperbole exhausted
You finally stop looking through rose-colored shades and see that you and your family have suffered for the blind faith you have put into one incompetent leader.

When all your devices for deflecting the blame from this chickenshit chickhawk are gone, what are you going to do when you come to grips with the fact that this country has been diminished? No Clinton to blame. No Gore. No Kerry. This country is worse off because of your man. Try and lie your way out of that.

From Avedon Carol:

Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice

Uh, no.

Washington, D.C. is about 60% black.
Baltimore, MD is 64% black.
Detroit, MI is 81% black.
Atlanta, GA is 61% black.
St. Louis, MO is 51% black.

I could go on but won’t. Cite:

http://www.city-data.com/

What the heck gives you the idea New Orleans is the only black majority city?