I pit the VA

I came back from Iraq in February of 05. I congratulated myself on being so well adjusted. I did a lot of convoys in Iraq, sometimes in the gun turret. I left control of my finances to a friend who I’d known for ten years. I picked him because he was so much more educated than I was, platonic, and so logical.

 I was in a battle that lasted 22 hours and pitted us not only against a force that outnumbered us at least ten to one, but against a civilian leader who told Bremer we were facing 'teenagers with guns.' That prolonged the battle. 

I had close calls I can't write about. I saw things I don't know *how* to write about, much less speak of. And I fell in love with a country that was not mine, and a people who wanted us to be there, who just wanted to live better than they had under Saddam.  

I came back from Iraq and I was amazed to have a bed in a room of all things-----all by myself! I'd been flinching at particular loud noises for a while. (Once a mortar landed in front of me during the battle and after that I can't remember anything.) I'd spent the last two weeks of my deployment in Kuwait, in an airplane hangar with a hundred other women---and one electrical outlet.  One single room in my house had more outlets than that. 

The problem was, my ‘friend’ had emptied my checking accounts, and treated my checking account as a means to reimburse himself after his Power of Attorney expired. He decided whether or not he deserved reimbursement. He kept both the accounts and the checks secret from me. For weeks I was dazed at the lack of gunfire and bombs. When I finally wised up, he’d spent all of my money but eleven dollars----and no lawyer would take the case. After all, I’m a blue collar woman and he’s a college professor. Not even JAG lawyers would help me. He wrote all the worst checks after I came back. Maybe he had an issue with the new me.

Things I’d never noticed weighed on me. Humvees smell of diesel and they rattle from the armor. So do buses. I don’t drive, so I take the bus. I went back to work, and I found I had much more confidence than I had when I left. by the hour My boss loved me. I loved working. Really, how often do you face bombs in America? In Iraq I faced them every day. We’d drive over bomb craters in the roads every day, and then wave at the civilians.

I started having nightmares. Then one day I got on the bus—at night----and found that my vision was doing strange things. I was hot and cold, and coudln’t/ hear properly. My stomach was profoundly upset and I thought I was going to pass out. I got off at the next stop and threw up. I was shaking. Stomach virus, I thought. But soon it wasn’t just at night that I couldn’t stand the bus, it was going to work, too. I started starving myself before and during work. I started taking cabs because I simply couldn’t take the bus. I lost twenty pounds in six weeks. I started having nightmares that wrenched me out of sleep, nightmares of all the people I’d met in Iraq, all the people I’d promised we’d help to make free. I knew the insurgents had killed some of them. The problem is, they never were anything but people to me----people who trusted me, and then they were dead—because of me. I’d been a fool. They’d suffered. What little I experienced seemed a fair price to pay for my stupidity.

An NCO overheard me talking about the nausea and other symptoms and asked me, “You know you’re having panic attacks, right?” No, I didn’t. I’m not a…panic attack…kind of person. I didn’t know what they were, and if somebody had told me, I’d have scoffed at the idea. She made me go to the VA.

There they asked me if I’d had a traumatic childhood. I told them my childhood was notably short of dead bodies, mortar attacks, and sieges where I was outnumbered at least ten to one. They put me on a drug that…caused anxiety. I had such a bad panic attack that I passed out at work, and thought I was having a heart attack. I called 911. After that, my boss wouldn’t answer my phone calls and wouldn’t use me. Could you blame him?

The panic attacks got worse and worse and I stopped leaving the house. The VA switches my meds and gave me anti-anxiety meds. All they did was keep the nightmares somewhat at bay. I started drinking. Drinking made me pass out and kept me from dreaming. It made me feel horrible and gain weight, but it kept the nightmares away. That was the thing. The VA pretty much ignored the nightmares. They operated from a one-size fits all playbook, and they kept trying to force me into what they called ‘exposure therapy.’ This meant confronting my fears----alone and undrugged, in public, when the possible outcomes included losing consciousness and other symptoms too humiliating to mention, without any support at all. They took me off the anti-anxiety meds. I crashed. Last year I became convinced that I was a murderer and a coward, and started cutting my arms till they bled so I could get some sleep. I’m a Catholic, after all, and I believe in sin. There was no one I could confess to who could help me expiate my sins. I wanted to be punished and yet I was a revolting human being. I wanted to die.

The VA put me in a ward with shoplifters and wife beaters. Aside from the Viet Nam and Korea vets, I was the only one with actual combat experience. I was listening to guys complain about how they were getting nailed for shoplifting. Oh, yeah, and after the sexism of some of the other soldiers in Iraq, I had to sit there while wife beaters complained about how their wives didn’t want to fuck them.

I have to say, yelling at assholes and highly-educated assholes is very therapeutic. But the big thing is that they put me on better meds----which keep me from actively wanting to kill myself----and avoided the issue of whether or not I have PTSD. I had to submit video of the battle I was in to get them to take me seriously when my NCO dragged me to the Disabled American Veterans and made me file a claim. Fix me, is my attitude. Fix me and I’ll go back and fight. I was a good soldier once. I did a good job. That’s all you have to do. But they seem devoted solely to butt-covering. I hurt my back and shoulder in Iraq and two years later they still haven’t done an MRI-----and I can’t lift my arm above my shoulder. If it weren’t for the DAV I’d have given up and literally killed myself. That’s how depressing it is when you’re already depressed and in despair. I didn’t even know that wanting to die from guilt was considered being in a suicidal mood. For three months that was what I lived with. I considered it a lack of courage that I didn’t kill myself.

I’m 43 years old and I’m an old bitch who can fight. What about all these twentysomething soldiers who are respectful and deferential of authority? We’ve had two Marines kill themselves after they were turned away for care at the local VA, and I know these guys did way more shit than I did. How many other soldiers are dying not of wounds inflicted in battle but by their very allies? How many young soldiers, sailors, and Marines are going through this without knowing that they’re not alone and that it’s not a weakness, but another war wound? How many people get twisted into talking about childhood knee scrapes instead of the four-year-old who was murdered on your watch?

I don’t expect much, but I just want to work a job again. I just want to walk away from my house without checking for snipers. I want to get rid of the nightmares, the insomnia, the guilt, above all----the guilt is like acid. I keep offering the VA a good deal: fix me----and I’ll go back. I re-enlisted before I got sick. That’s how much I love the Army. In a heartbeat, I’ll do what they ask. I’ve served with too many good people. They saved my life. It’s only fair that I get the opportunity to return the favor. Is that too much to ask? That’s all I want: fix the damage. I’m not touchy feely but I can’t shake the flashbacks and shit like that.

I don’t want pity or…whatever. I want promises answered. I’m not ashamed to say that I served and I want only what’s coming to me. I want to be whole so I can be a good soldier again. I loved being a good soldier. I learned two other languages and travelled to twenty different countries. Until Iraq, it seemed one could put in twenty years and not fire a shot. I was literally defending myself when I fired those shots, but how come the enemy is my own countrymen this time?

They’re not the enemy. They’re people, often good people, trying to do a job in a fucked up system. The VA hasn’t had to deal with veterans of a major conflict in over a decade(and Gulf War 1 was small compared to what’s going on now). They may be wrong, they may be petty or bureaucratic, they are almost certainly underfunded and under supported, and they are definitely overwhelmed. The hardship for both the VA and the veterans is, I fear, just beginning. I urge you to send what you’ve written, printed out, on a letter to your congressperson. I similarly urge anyone who was touched, or angered, by your story, to do the same(assuming you give your permission for others to use your story in letters to their own representatives). I’ll start by writing mine. If you grant permission to use your story before I send it, I’ll use yours, if not I’ll use others that I’ve heard. If there is anything we, as a nation, should have learned from Viet Nam, it’s that when a war goes against our plans, we should still support the men and women who fought on our behalf in that war. Many of the stories I’m hearing from Iraq vets are too similar to the stories I read about Viet Nam vets for my comfort.

I thank you for your service. I wish your entire career had involved not firing any shots. I think you have real problems, stemming from said service, which need real solutions. There are almost certainly Veterans of Foreign Wars branches in your area. The stories that many of them tell are tough to re-live along with them, but many of them have fought both battles overseas, and the same ones you’re engaged in with the VA now. Speak with them, perhaps they have advice. At the very least, many of them will understand where you’re coming from.

Steven

I don’t know what to say. “Thank you for your service” seems like so much trite bullshit after reading what you wrote.

The VA is grossly unprepared to deal with what they are facing, and without funding they are not going to be able to handle the load. They were already having trouble providing for WWII vets - my late father in law was a POW in Germany, but it was like pulling teeth to get any assistance from the VA for him.

I live just outside of Fort Benning, GA, and I am hearing and reading far too many stories similar to yours. I am another who will use your letter to write to Congress if you will grant permission. I can only pray that it will do some good.

I hope you can hang on and keep fighting to get help. You fought for others, to give them a chance at freedom and a better life. Now it is time for you to fight for you - for freedom and a better life.

If you need to talk or just vent, my e-mail is in my profile. You will be in my thoughts.

They’re denying that you have Post Traumatic Stress Disorder? I would respectfully disagree with that.

Exposure therapy is effective for anxiety, but not when you’re in the bleeding, open wound stage that you are obviously in. The exposure has to be mild and small, at a pace YOU are comfortable with, as you re-build your self-confidence and your coping skills.

You need a good doctor who will prescribe you the appropriate medication, and a good therapist who will work with you using Cognitive Behavioural Therapy. The good news is that the combination of medication and CBT is very effective against anxiety disorders, including PTSD. The bad news is that it’s hard work, and it takes time - but I’m guessing you’re not afraid of hard work.

If the VA won’t help you with this, there are many counsellors who have sliding scales for fees. Your counsellor should be experienced with treating anxiety disorders. CBT is much more proactive than talk therapy - if your therapist just has you sitting around talking about how you feel, that’s not good enough. You need exercises on developing coping skills and better ways of thinking and dealing with stress. A self-help group would also help, if you can find one.

If you would like more information on dealing with this, please feel free to email me. I work with a self-help group for anxiety disorder sufferers each week, and can tell you about many resources available. You don’t need to feel bad forever.

margin: Wow. Just wow. I cannot begin to comprehend what you’ve gone through – and borne up under. Thank you for being there, for fighting to defend us, for going through Hell in behalf of the rest of us, and my deepest and most sincere apologies, as an American, that this country did not give you what you needed in return for that service.

To the Republicans on this board: Here, frankly, is something you can do to help: send the message, through your local party organizations, and your Congressman and Senator(s) if any of them are GOP, that this needs to be fixed. If there’s one thing we can all agree on as Americans, it’s that our troops, our veterans, need whatever help they need, and it’s a debt we owe them as a country. For some reason (and giving my opinion what the reason is would be a partisan rant out of place here), this Administration has let the VA go underfunded and with inadequate resources and controls in place. That needs fixing. It needs fixing now. Your voice, as part of those who still back the President’s party, will be heard. Please use it.

IF they diagnose you with service-connected PTSD, you get benefits. I guess a fair amount of them. Because panic attacks tend to cause agoraphobia, I’m kind of stuck in my house, living on seven hundred dollars a month, plus the generosity of friends.

My therapist’s version of exposure therapy was to take me abruptly off the anti-anxiety medication, and treat me like I’m a one size fits all problem. She also treats my agoraphobia as something that causes her difficulties becuase on bad days I simply can’t leave the house.

I’ve actually contacted the Disabled American Veterans, who have fought for me twice and won both times. I can’t say enough good things about them, but it was untreated aspects of this illness that led me to become suicidal last fall. It was two months before they found me a bed in the VA. The DAV has filed for an increase in my benefits, which would entitle me to job training and perhaps a chance to become a contributing member of society again. If you want to do something for veterans, donate to them. They fight for veterans against the system that makes me just tear my hair out.

You know what they told me about the possiblity of PTSD? They told me I didn’t show symptoms of it right away. For the longest time, they tried to say that I must have had a traumatic childhood. Beats me, but I know in childhood I never saw three guys die because they rolled over a bomb that we should have hit.

It'd be easier for me to think well of the VA if I hadn't had so many awful experiences with individuals amongst them. I've been hung up on,  treated with contempt, and blamed for my own illness. When I got my hands on the initial screening doctor's notes, it was like reading a defense attorney's cross-examination of a rape victim. She went in there with skepticism and treated me like somebody trying to pull one over on her. I just don't think vets should be subjected to that.

The system is effed. That said, how can we, specifically, help margin?

Isn’t someone here really, really familiar with the VA, from the bureaucratic side? I know I’ve seen it, but I can’t remember who.

Are there veteran’s support groups? Remember, the Elks and Masons, were, among other reasons, formed to help each other in times before social security existed. Now that the government is the screwing over force, it may be time to start thinking about organizing to help each other against the government.

margin, I know what you’re dealing with. We have a friend who’s a Vietnam vet. Two Purple Hearts, Agent Orange related health issues, part of a combat engineering battalion that held a chunk of the Ho Chi Minh trail for months without backup or reinforcements. He’s been having PTSD symptoms for years and has been going round and round with the VA for the past two years. They kept setting up hoops for him to jump through–prove you were in battle, prove it sucked. He has pictures of him with his buddies stacking up the deaders after firefights, picking up chunks of what used to be people–not good enough the VA says. He has notarized statements from his former comrades in arms telling of his exemplary service–not good enough, the VA says. He has TWO FUCKING PURPLE HEARTS! Apparently not good enough for the VA. They tried to get him to say he was molested as a child. He’s sixty one fucking years old, for Og’s sake! How can having Uncle Bob stick a hand down his pants possibly outweigh the trauma of getting shot at all day long for months while friends die horribly all around? Finally my SO drafted a letter and sent it directly to his congresscritters, one of whom has a link from her web site inviting vets with VA troubles to write directly. Four weeks later, he gets a call from the Social Security Administration asking for his checking account number so they can deposit a lump sum equal to the benefits he should have been getting for PTSD the past year and a half, and he had his disability bennies (for his Agent Orange related diabetes and other issues) bumped up by fourteen hundred bucks a month.

The political climate in Washington is very heated right now after the Walter Reed scandal and the rest of the VA related denial of benefits to qualified veterans. Get on the horn to your local US senator, the governor and your state reps as well. Get any outside documentation you can, especially from others who served with you. No politician wants to be seen as ignoring our vets right now and they can put pressure on the VA that you will never be able to do no matter how many symptoms you exhibit. The American Legion and the VFW can help with resources and advocacy at hearings, as well.

Good luck, and I’m so sorry that after going through hell they feel it necessary to put you into purgatory…

Fucking VA–may their already tiny hearts shrink to the size of their testicles, rendering blood flow impossible, while ravens eat their eyes trying to get to the atrophied brains inside their evil skulls. I’m not a christian, but I’d almost be willing to convert if it meant these penny pinching, soul deadened gatekeepers would get what they deserve in hell.

Margin my husband is retired Air Force, got the anthrax shots and has had severe health problems ever since. I only mention this because, in his course of action he has met some pretty big muckety mucks. I am going to show him your post and ask him for some people you can contact for help. You deserve any help you can get, your government owes it to you. Give me a day or so and I’ll see what the husband can come up with. He has gone through some shit with the VA as have some of his AF buddies. I promise to get you any leads I can.

Keep in mind that I haven’t been able to work in eighteen months specifically because I can only tolerate vehicles for a short while. That hasn’t changed. It’s gotten better but I’m effectively stuck in my home. The DAV is fighting for me, but that takes time. If you want to help vets, help the DAV; they always need donations and volunteers and funds. They do nothing but fight for vets against the VA system. Helping them helps us.

Volenti non fit injuria.

I read several articles on the VA and how returning veterans are treated, and your experience appears to be depressingly common. An unnamed senior VA administrator in one article (in Newsweek, I think) said that there’s a lot of pressure from the top to keep costs as low as possible, since the high cost of the war is already a real problem for the Bush administration. So not only are they seriously understaffed, but there’s pressure to solve problems as cheaply as possible.

Speaking as someone who has been strongly against the war from the beginning and greatly resents the huge cost (both in human lives/health as well as money), this is one area where I can say without hesitation that we should absolutely spare no expense. Do whatever it takes: raise my taxes, cut money in other areas, etc. just so long as anyone who has sacrificed their health on my behalf receives the best care money can buy. Cutting costs in this area for the sake of politics is sickening.

Thanks for your service, margin. Keep fighting for the care you deserve.

I think it would be spectacular if a liberal anti-war candidate (like Clinton or Obama) were elected President, and his/her first major act was to double the VA’s funding and appoint a super-competent administrator.

I’m very sorry to hear that, margin. Instead of treating you and getting you on the road to recovery, they’re busy lying to you and evading your very real problem. Anybody at all familiar with anxiety disorders knows that the anxiety disorder almost always starts a little while after the original stress is over - from what you’ve described, you have textbook PTSD. I would suggest that you educate yourself on PTSD and fight for what you need as much as you can. You absolutely shouldn’t have to fight to get benefits like this (the VA should be coming to YOU and asking what more they can do for you), but it seems to be the way your government is choosing to treat its veterans.

Oh, by the way, your childhood has nothing to do with your anxiety disorder. People develop anxiety disorders after surgery, after serious illnesses, after a loved one having a serious illness, after having too much stress for too long, for any of a hundred reasons. Since I can’t believe they don’t know this, they are lying to you and giving you the run-around. And you need a better therapist.

ETA: The sickening part of this is that using proper therapy with people with PTSD is extremely cost-effective, because it is such a treatable condition. Short-sighted fools.

You might try calling your congressperson. I’ve known some people to have success from that. It’s pretty well known right now that the VA is trying to disqualify veterans with PTSD. I also agree that you aren’t stuck with the VA for all of your services. I’ve seen some veterans in my practice for years at a very low fee until they were at 100% disability or Fee Basis began paying for therapy.

margin, that really sucks. I’m very sorry for the troubles you’re facing.

My father is involved with the National Alliance for the Mentally Ill (NAMI). This is a national support and advocacy organization that is involved with helping people work through ‘the system’ to get proper treatment for their mental illnesses, among other things. They have a specific Veteran’s Affairs council that is concerned with helping people get the most out of the VA, and lobbying for proper treatment for our veterans. I gave him the five minute summary, just now, and his first suggestion is that you get a hold of the local NAMI office, and see how they can help you - they’ll often have a LOT of contacts and suggestions for dealing with local groups, as well as personalities at the groups. (This is suggested for a stop-gap while you try to get the VA to live up to it’s obligations to you.) There is a NAMI coordinator for each VISN region. You should be able to reach the coordinator through NAMI National (vet council) They can get you in touch with them.

If you email me with your location, it’s possible that we can get you more specific assistance.

ETA: I’m going to be out much of the afternoon, but I will be online this evening. Sorry for any delays this might cause you.

I swear my contempt for our President has reached a depth I did not believe possible.

You keep up the good fight margin.

But I got a bunch of medals in Iraq, some of them the usual fruit salad, and one I wanted to toss away, and I will say this: I did something for every single one of those, and they’re mine. Damn, damn, damn.

That…that…! I just can’t talk.

This thread has to be one of the most thought provoking I’ve read in my (short) time here. Hopefully you get the assistance and treatment you need margin.

I think it’s absolutely despicable to have sent margin and her fellow soldiers to a war under false pretences, kept them there long after it became clear that there was no reasonable prospect of anything resembling success and then deny many of them access to the treatment they need. The complete moral bankruptcy of the Bush administration is astounding.

Oh and as for the scumbag who stole all margin’s money; surely he has committed some form of fraud? As such wouldn’t the relevant legal authorities prosecute him at no cost to her?

I tried getting a lawyer but nobody would touch the case. He's a college professor and platonic friend; however, he told people stuff about me when I was gone that hinted he was more intimate with me than he's ever been.  He also hid a checkbook from me for five months. My status as a combat vet made him deeply and profoundly nervous;  he wanted, I think, to put me back into my place as his Galatea.  It was deeply creepy on so many levels, and because of his status and position, nobody would believe it---or me.