If the ER psychiatrist recommended you be released, why did you end up in the psych ward? JFTR, psych wards are **always **locked. Most of the ones I’ve seen have those double sally-port doors. You go through one set of doors, close it behind you so it locks, and then through another set of doors to the main area. Both sets of doors cannot be open at the same time.
Some dedicated psych facilites even require a security escort from the front door to the specific wing.
I **was not **pulling information out of my ass, thank you.
I made a statement based on my experiences as an EMT. Cops and paramedics cannot take people directly to a psych facility. They must be medically cleared first. Any number of things can manifest as a psychiatric disorder, even something as simple as an infection. We often picked up patients at nursing homes or long-term care facilities for ‘change in mental status.’ We took them to the ER. It was amazing how often they went back after having been diagnosed with something as simple as a urinary tract infection, or a change in meds that caused problems. This is quite common with the elderly or those in long-term care situations who are bedridden and/or on multiple meds.
Cops cannot pick someone up and take them to a psych facility. They are not qualified to determine if someone is in a true psychiatric crisis.
Ok, I was close. At any rate, withholding passwords seems 1) silly, because they can be reset/overridden by the company, and 2) it’s their shit. It will only serve to cause Annie-Xmas more grief, in my opinion. But no way are they forbidden to access any data on their shit.
Ditto on that. I have two computers going at all times. The work computer is for work (and the occasional photos from co-workers). The home computer is for my personal life. There are instances where I sametime personal info to co-workers, but it’s never anything I’d be uncomfortable with Da Man nosing his way into it.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but where do you get “all the people” from?
Everbody bar one PERSON (i.e singular, as in less than two) was very polite. Suggesting that there is more to the story than meets the eye is not being “shitty” - especially when there is like, ya know, actually more to the story. LIke the visit to the ER, and then the reccommendation in the ward for a longer stay.
Geez - did your critical thinking skills go on holiday or something?
We instruct our employees NEVER to give out their passwords to anyone - except the Chinese government when traveling to China or for our Chinese employees. Not even us if we ask. We can reset their password and get into their systems. We don’t create systems were we can’t get into their information with sys admin access or change ACLs to be able to access their data.
Joe User has no idea if I’m actually an IT guy, or if I’m just pretending to be an IT guy, or if I got laid off as the IT guy last week and am trying to hack my way back in. If I have business in your data, I can get access to it.
The other issue is that most people reuse passwords - there is no guarantee (and a pretty good chance) that when the user gives me their password I now have information to access their facebook account, or their bank account on line, or their Netflix account or their favorite internet message board. As an IT manager, I don’t WANT to ever have one of my employees in the position of being accused of having that information. Far better for me if passwords are off limits.
Upshot, I wouldn’t be giving my old employer my passwords either.
This - I have been project manager on a few different website updates, new implementations or whatever. I designed systems that allowed for updating by client (as in shopfront pricing, press releases that sort of stuff) I ALWAYS told them they needed to change the password during project handover (but they never did)
FWIW, I don’t doubt the bare facts of the story. [ul][li]Annie-Xmas freaked out for some reason, and quit her job. This is by no means the first time she has freaked out at work.[/li][li]Then the VB noticed the missing cash, and called the police. [/li][li]When the police contacted Annie, she freaked out again at the accusation. [/li][li]The police contacted the boss, since Annie apparently has no next of kin, and the boss said that she seemed suicidal. [/li][li]So the police haul her off to the ER, where the admitting physician agrees that she should stay overnight while she calms down. [/li][li]The intake counselor agrees, but for three days because she has no support system in case she decides to harm herself or others. [/li][li]While in the ward, she refuses to eat or take meds.[/li][li]Finally another patient convinces her to eat and take her meds.[/li][li]She then begins to recover, and is released.[/ul][/li]
I am NOT accusing anyone of anything, but I don’t recall hearing where the missing $5K was. If the realtor has already found it, then I would agree that accusing Annie-Xmas of taking it was a rotten thing to do, whether actionable or not.
The stuff I don’t believe is mostly a matter of emphasis or motives, which is hardly uncommon and does not amount to anything particularly “fishy”. IMO.
Still think Annie-Xmas should ask to have this thread locked.
She’s since come back and clarifed it a little, but on the surface, this reads as, “I freaked out, the cops called my boss, my boss told the cops I was suicidal, and they took me to the local mental hospital.”
It just wouldn’t happen that way.
She then said,
Again, the police do not take people directly to psych facilities. If the ER psychiatrist says she can be released, she’d be released - where did the intake counselor come into it? She wouldn’t see an intake counselor unless she was being admitted.
I asked why she was committed for five days, if the ER psychiatrist recommended she be released. He has more power than an intake counselor, who are usually social workers.
Refusing to eat or take your meds is a sign there’s something wrong, and it can be used to extend a stay. If she was also refusing to attend therapy, that’s another sign.
I concur. If they have competent IT people there’s no need for them to know her passwords, and they shouldn’t know her passwords–they can reset her password any time they like.
But at a small company it’s very possible that there are no “IT people”, just a guy they hired a while ago to set up the systems. Which is why giving the passwords to your attorney and letting him evaluate whether to give them to the employer is the best course of action. Because giving Bob in accounting your password just because he told you he needed it is a bad idea.
But I still wouldn’t give 'em to a staff accountant. I’d give them (with my lawyer’s ok) in writing to my ex-boss or HR or something. Remember she says she’s been accused of embezzling/theft. I wouldn’t give them to some random staff accountant.
Sure, but as a shorthand way of telling the story, it seems close enough to me.
I thought she was admitted, overnight. The intake counselor then changed that to three days because she had no one to go home to.
Yes. So would be wandering the halls at night, which could be seen as contributing to the problem Annie mentioned earlie3r that she had not slept for a day or so prior to her admission.
If you haven’t eaten, and refuse to eat, and haven’t slept, and wander the halls, then to the extent that insomnia and low blood sugar are contributing to your problems, that at least won’t change until you eat and sleep.
I certainly understand the Kafka-esque nature of being sent to a psych ward if you are perfectly sane, but refusing to eat, refusing to sleep, and refusing medication, after freaking out at work, quitting a job you have held for 27 years, and then freaking out again upon being accused of stealing - it does not sound all that unreasonable to conclude that there might be some serious issues going on.
LIke I say, I wasn’t there and I don’t know. Maybe it really is an evil plot from a vindictive boss - that can happen too.
The two things aren’t mutually exclusive either. It’s certainly possible that the boss is a vindictive jerk, and that the hospital staff acted prudently in not letting her go home.
Refusing meds…were these meds she takes regularly or did they just prescribe something so she wouldn’t be a bother to them? I’m not sure I’d take meds based on an on-the-fly evaluation, either.
Same here, not to mention the problems I’d likely have with whatever food they were serving. Quitting a job after 27 years – unless you’re booked for a long retirement cruise, that’s a pretty major life change. To be accused of grand larceny as a farewell gift – I honestly cannot imagine how I would have reacted.