That’s what I’m saying!
My brother took me to a strip club on my eighteenth birthday and I can tell you it wasn’t about the nekkid womens, it was about male bonding and turning eighteen and getting drunk and throwing up in the women’s bathroom and being able to tell the story now 25 years later.
Me too, on the feeling bad. And I always feel compelled to make eye contact when they’re talking to me, which is sort of counterproductive, from my position. I don’t want the attention; I just wanna look at boobies (that aren’t mine, cause that gets boring)!
I’m glad you came to the rescue of that chubbly stripper. It’s not like the guys have to tip her if they’re not interested in her body type.
[off-topic]I totally had a dream the other night, FoieGrasIsEvil, that I met you and you turned out to be one of my IRL friends. I’m glad you’re a cool dude IRL, and not just in my dreams![/ot]
You can afford to be sympathetic, you have a buff tabby waiting for you at home.
All this talk about fat bouncers makes me think of this guy. He’d make a great bouncer.
Don’t forget his brother, fattabby. One’s fat, one’s skinny, and I love them both! Hmm, much like my views on strippers…
Hmmmm, here we have Maureen wanting me to reference what she SAID.
Yet here we have Maureen wanting to be able to riff on what she READ INTO what I said.
Wow, are you ever bad at this consistency thing.
My post was not explicit about that because my post did not say that. My post stated what I (and other men for whom I am a proxy) AFFIRMATIVELY want. Not what we negatively want, what we affirmatively want.
I want “A.” It’s not that I want “not A,” it is that I want “A.”
That IS how I phrased it in the first place. You just needed to ride the ol’ shrew around the barnyard.
Yeah…wow, you’re right! You’re not being at all derogatory. Or…for that matter…defensive.
You posted what you posted. Namely: an agreement with someone who once stripped positing that men go to strippers for the empathy and kindness they “just don’t get at home.” Nice attempt at deflection, but it’s still what you said. Don’t go projecting your perception of how some women react on me just because of your guilty conscience, bubba.
You bet I am.
Nope, I’m being derogatory. You’re trying to have your cake and eat it too, and I’m calling you out on it.
You’re acting as if I have something to apologize for and you’re trying to twist my words to validate your own prejudices, and I’m not having any of it, and I’m making fun of you for it.
You got this one OK. I’m not being defensive. If I want to go to a strip club, I do. If I want to be overwhelmed by strange and hopefully mostly attractive half- or fully-naked women, I will be.
I’ve never been defensive about it because I’m not ashamed of it. And I’m not ashamed of it because I have nothing to be ashamed about.
Don’t you get it? I don’t have a guilty conscience.
And I’m not trying to deflect anything.
I fully agree with the proposition that men go to strip clubs in order to pay for complete positive attention.
I don’t have to back off from that view in order to also hold the view that you’re way off base and shrill in your insistence that an affirmative want of such attention necessarily implies a negative want with regard to what a man already has “at home.” The two are not mutually exclusive, and your insistence that they are labels you pretty clearly.
And I’m not projecting anything, Maureen, I’m summarizing your posts.
Again, you’re trying to paint me with the same brush that you refuse to allow to be brought to bear on you.
I’m not having it.
You hold on to that, sweetcakes.
No, that’s how you SEE my posts. Which is why I said you’re projecting. I don’t want or need an apology from you; why should I? I rolled my eyes at the assertion of what some men “aren’t getting at home.” That was pretty much the extent of it. I used your post as an example because…well, because your post agreed with that sentiment. If it didn’t, then you picked a rather odd way of disagreeing with it.
Well then, really, why are you still arguing with me? You don’t have to prove yourself to me or anyone else, right?
No, sweetie, I didn’t insist that. Someone else posted it. You agreed with it. I rolled my eyes at it. And again: you saying that I’m “insisting it” and “getting shrill about it” when all I did was point at it is projection.
Well, then…why not have a beer instead? It must be difficult defending a position you’re not defensive about.
Gee, are you two married together? Sounds like it.
Could we please get back to the real issue here? What we’re supposed to be talking about is strip clubs not uglying up the view of said naked women with grotesquely obese bouncers right in one’s LOS.
Ooo-kaaay…
Casts sidelong glances
Slowly shuffles away